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05-08-2007, 06:45 PM
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#16 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | In the rotary engines you control power by cutting the ignition . I'll go for the Bristol fighter even if was a 2 seater it had a long and distinguished military career
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05-09-2007, 03:57 AM
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#17 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet  Well put your 2 cents in then.  | I wish I knew anuff about WW1 planes to have 2 cents to add...LOL..
I'm 42 and been a ww2 aircraft buff all my life..And these days been doing some digging around on ww1 aircraft...And tank warfare...
I used to "think" I knew about ww2 aircraft...Then I found this forum ..And found out how much I did not know.. Some (most) of you guys really know your stuff... And if you come in here with off info ..You guys will sink there ship..LOL... And you should.. History is jacked up bad anuff..You guys ran me off some time back.. You guys can be real hard on nOObys at times ...  ....
I do really injoy coming here everyday and learning.. Being an American.. All we hear is one side ..Its really neat to hear about ww2 from people from all over the world ...And there take on what went down... I'm seeing that America has a bigger bull sh#%t info machine.. Then I knew... I wonder how "off" the info on the Iraq War is? ... And what will come out fifty years from now..?
On some car fourms ..I'm the man with all the info  ... But here I'm your student... I can ask alot of question...LOL... And have alot of questions to ask ..
But I must admit defeat in this game ... I do not have the info to even be on the field ... Please do not think this is a put down to you guys and the forum... Hats off to you guys...You sure know your stuff...
I could be the guy on the fourm that ask all the dumb questions ..LOL...I'd be the master of that..
Sorry to hijack this ... Please go back to WW1 aircraft .. And I'll get back to learning..
Have a good day
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05-09-2007, 07:26 AM
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#18 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA
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Country:  | David, your welcome here any time - if you go back in the threads and see the noodbs we harass you'll find they usually don't know what they are talking about and come in here with an attitude. All of us are always learning, its another thing to humble yourself and ask a question or say "I don't know."
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05-09-2007, 09:48 AM
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#19 | | Der Crewchief
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
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Originally Posted by Haztoys I wish I knew anuff about WW1 planes to have 2 cents to add...LOL..
I'm 42 and been a ww2 aircraft buff all my life..And these days been doing some digging around on ww1 aircraft...And tank warfare...
I used to "think" I knew about ww2 aircraft...Then I found this forum ..And found out how much I did not know.. Some (most) of you guys really know your stuff... And if you come in here with off info ..You guys will sink there ship..LOL... And you should.. History is jacked up bad anuff..You guys ran me off some time back.. You guys can be real hard on nOObys at times ... ....
I do really injoy coming here everyday and learning.. Being an American.. All we hear is one side ..Its really neat to hear about ww2 from people from all over the world ...And there take on what went down... I'm seeing that America has a bigger bull sh#%t info machine.. Then I knew... I wonder how "off" the info on the Iraq War is? ... And what will come out fifty years from now..?
On some car fourms ..I'm the man with all the info ... But here I'm your student... I can ask alot of question...LOL... And have alot of questions to ask ..
But I must admit defeat in this game ... I do not have the info to even be on the field ... Please do not think this is a put down to you guys and the forum... Hats off to you guys...You sure know your stuff...
I could be the guy on the fourm that ask all the dumb questions ..LOL...I'd be the master of that..
Sorry to hijack this ... Please go back to WW1 aircraft .. And I'll get back to learning..
Have a good day
David | Dave thats why I started this thread, because I dont know a lot about WW1 aircraft and this way I can learn more.
Sure I know the names of most of them but what made each one great or bad I dont know.
Feel free to chime in at anytime, ask questions and learn. That is what this forum is here for.
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05-09-2007, 03:59 PM
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#20 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Gotta go with the Fokker D. VII as well, for all the same reasons....
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05-09-2007, 04:03 PM
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Country: | The D.VII was the only weapon specifically mentioned by name in the armistice agreements at the end of the war (Surrender in good condition by the German Armies of [...] all aircraft of the D7 type [...]).
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05-09-2007, 04:20 PM
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#22 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Haztoy, this is a great site and I too have learned much since joining it. There are some very well informed people on this site and, I think, some fine gentlemen also. | |
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05-09-2007, 08:55 PM
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#23 | | Minister of Whoopass
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
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Country: | Well, I may be informed, but dont u ever assume to call me a gentleman.... Thats a banning offense...
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05-10-2007, 04:31 AM
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#24 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | I'll go along with that Les
Be carefull what what you say to him David (Renrich) I only said good morning once and he opened his can of whoopass and I got a 5 week ban.
In the end I had to PM him and e-mail an image of a $10 bill bribe but as he works cheap he fax back 50cents change.
all the best Lee
PS dont tell Les I told you
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05-10-2007, 11:25 AM
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#25 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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05-10-2007, 05:21 PM
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#26 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Les, naturally I was not including you in the gentleman category. What in the world is a Long Island native doing in Miss. anyway. | |
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05-10-2007, 05:44 PM
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#27 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet The Camel owes its difficult handling characteristics to the grouping of the engine, pilot, guns, and fuel tank into first seven feet of the aircraft, coupled with the strong gyroscopic effect of the rotary engine. The Camel soon gained an unfortunate reputation with student pilots. | Camel reminds me a lot of Corsair as both had a reputation as rookie killers, but still were highly successful fighters.
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05-12-2007, 02:52 PM
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Country: | I agree Cyrano, there were more Corsairs destroyed operationally than by enemy fire and that probably was true of the Camel also. I guess the big difference as far as difficulty in handling the a/c was that the Corsair in the air was a dream to fly, just difficult for a rookie to land and had to be trimed correctly on takeoff whereas the Camel was, I understand, tricky in all flight regimes. | |
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05-12-2007, 04:24 PM
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#29 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | Voted Fokker D.VII.
Nice myth about Anthony Fokker:
The Fokker D.VII was not a very stable design, the first vprototypes had a lot of problems with directionally instability. Fokker used that to impress the german army at the Adlershof competition. He told the test pilot that he should notice how responsive the D.VII was and how manouverable (because of the instability). Fokker did impress the germans with this and maneuverability became one of the D.VII best properties.
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05-12-2007, 04:37 PM
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#30 | | Senior Member
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Country: | The DVII has gotten all the publicity, however, I am sure the Spad and SE5a were worthy opponents, both being faster and with a higher ceiling. Also, I don't think too much about the Allies naming the DVII in the armistice. They were the only one who go to pick. I am sure they thought it was the best the Germans had.
I don't know too much about WWI aircraft, so I would have to vote for the DVII just because of its fame (kinda like the P-51). | |
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