 | Hitler in WWI| World War I Discuss Hitler in WWI in the Other Eras forums; MM has got the story correct. Several attempts were made on Hitler's lift in World War II. One other ... |
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07-23-2006, 06:51 PM
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Country: | MM has got the story correct. Several attempts were made on Hitler's lift in World War II. One other was planting a bomb in his personal Ju-52, but the bomb froze at altitude and didn't go off.
In World War I, a British private had ready aim of Hitler but allowed the injured corporal to escape. The said private was awarded the VC later in the war, and was the focal point of a famous painting. This painting Hitler had in his mountain retreat, the Eagles Nest. I posted a story about it in the World War I forum.
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07-24-2006, 04:35 AM
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#17 | | Hairy one of Old Judea
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Country: | Interestingly both Hitler and Mussolini were decorated WW1 veterans. Hitler was considered 'lucky' by his kamaraden. Both men were brave, resourceful soldiers.
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07-25-2006, 11:38 AM
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| In a way though we need people like Hitler to come along to allow us some perspective, we probably wouldn't be where we are today without him, the world would probably look quite different as well.
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07-25-2006, 03:57 PM
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Country: | No we dont need people like hitler, Ill admit his come to be was a direct result of our ignorance, but the world would have been better off if the bomb under the oak table actually killed him
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07-28-2006, 10:40 AM
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| Even if Adolph Hitler would have been killed there would have been another person that would have been "hitleresque." If you believe in fate to any part or that some things are pre-destined to a degree it would have been a differnt guy with a different name with generally the same results. 
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07-28-2006, 12:05 PM
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| But imagine the horror if he had good military ability or left his generals to do the planning instaed of interfering.
I haven't read this, and though there are slight cause and effect problems with time travel stories, it looks interesting:
Making History by Stephen Fry Amazon.com: Making History: Books: Stephen Fry Quote: |
The protagonist, Michael Young, is a trendy, somewhat vapid graduate student at Cambridge who is just finishing his dissertation on the early years of Hitler. Fry alternates chapters describing Michael's actions with sections of his dissertation, allowing a glimpse into the environment that spawned the rise of the Fuhrer. Upon Michael's meeting with physics professor Leo Zuckermann, the nefarious plot thickens. What if Hitler had never been born? What would a world without the Holocaust be like? The two men send male-sterility pills back in time to the water supply used by Hitler's parents.
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07-29-2006, 03:46 PM
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Country: | In World War I, a British private had ready aim of Hitler but allowed the injured corporal to escape.
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"It's a pity that he didn't kill the wretched thing when he had the chance."
"Pity? It was pity that stayed his hand."
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07-29-2006, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Twitch Even if Adolph Hitler would have been killed there would have been another person that would have been "hitleresque." If you believe in fate to any part or that some things are pre-destined to a degree it would have been a differnt guy with a different name with generally the same results. | Absolutely not, why? because there are many people out there right now just like Adolf Hitler, but none of them have really been able to accomplish the things he did.
__________________ Hello me...meet the real me.
And my misfits way of life.
A dark black past is my
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Hindsight is always 20-20,
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Speak of mutually assured destruction?
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07-29-2006, 06:28 PM
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#24 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Hussars if the plot to kill Hitler had succeeded, it is pretty much a proven fact that Himmler (who ran the SS) would have more than likely stepped up and taken control.
There is evidence that he was going to attempt a coup at some point anyhow. He did not agree with the way Hitler was running the war and also wanted to quicken the holocaust.
Himmer would have been much worse than Hitler.
Oh and by the way there 27 known plots to kill Hitler by German civilians or military commanders.
On the discussion of Rommel. I have been to his grave site many times. It is in Ulm and is very beautiful. I have also spoken to his son many times, ate dinner with him and recieved a tour of Rommels house by his son. I wish I could find my pics but I can not. I used to go there for the annivesary of his death.
Anyhow during the ceremony, 2 soldiers of the famed Afrika Korps stand there gaurding his grave in full uniform of the Afrika Korps (minus the swastika). His son normally gives a speach, and the cermony is attended by German soldiers, US soldiers (normally from the 1st Infantry Division, but since they are pulling out I dont know who will do it from now on), French soldiers and British Soldiers. Each country laying a wreath on his grave, with an Army band playing music. It really is a nice ceremony and sort of shows you how the man was respected by all even the allies.
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07-29-2006, 06:36 PM
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#25 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | This is the site that he took the poison and killed himself.
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07-31-2006, 10:21 AM
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| There was a Twilight Zone episode where they went back in time to kill Hitler as a baby. So Hitler's nanny buys a gypsy's baby and pawns it off to his father who realizes it's a different kid but the mother is so wacked out she doesn't. So it ended up that the time travelers actually made fate play out the way it did.
As many persona in history have seemed to show, environment weighs heavily on molding personalities, ideal, prejudices and fears.
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07-31-2006, 11:50 PM
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#27 | | Senior Member
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"His motor's conked out!"
"What's the differance, they're all Nazis!"
"Luke, shut up!"
"Fear the hook!"
"Oh.....I wanna fly."
"You mean the kind that go under water and fly up the stairs?"
"What you doing? Oh Nooooo!" |
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08-01-2006, 01:19 AM
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#28 | | Senior Member
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Country: | No he was a Jew!
__________________ Hello me...meet the real me.
And my misfits way of life.
A dark black past is my
Most valued possession.
Hindsight is always 20-20,
But looking back its still a bit fuzzy.
Speak of mutually assured destruction?
Nice story...tell it to readers digest!!! |
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08-01-2006, 07:06 AM
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#29 | | Senior Member
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Country: | I couldn't stop laughing the first time I heard that. There's another one where he was homosexual.
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08-01-2006, 05:44 PM
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Country: | No he was a Jew!
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I had heard that, I was just mixed up about the plot of the show and the travelers changed fate.
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"His motor's conked out!"
"What's the differance, they're all Nazis!"
"Luke, shut up!"
"Fear the hook!"
"Oh.....I wanna fly."
"You mean the kind that go under water and fly up the stairs?"
"What you doing? Oh Nooooo!" |
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