 | movie "Flyboys"| World War I Discuss movie "Flyboys" in the Other Eras forums; Great shots Evan... I never realized how small those birds were (are).... |
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04-26-2007, 12:01 PM
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Country:  | Great shots Evan... I never realized how small those birds were (are).
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04-26-2007, 04:40 PM
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Country: | Great shots of the Red Fokker! Too bad there are not more replica's in the world of original lost planes.
What kind of plane will you be flying in combat evanglider?
And thanks for the information. I always thought those bi-planes could do amazing things for all their fragility. Quote: |
All the gerries flew red Fokker Dr.I's. And there was the token black....not that I'm a racist, but goddamn, do we really need this racial bs on every movie?
| Yeah, I figured the Red Fokkers everybody knows about and knows it's silly.
Blue Max is cooler, in that Max helpes out only one red fokker. And you also know who's the pilot of that Red Fokker. And the way it turns out is great, though painful for Blue Max. Quote: |
And as far I know the gerries didn't commit any greater atrocities than the allies, so why are they still the bad guys! Always!
| Not many pilots shot at "Downed Pilots" in those days. I think Richthofen in the later part of his career shot at downed planes and pilots. He was a "Hunter" after all.
Flyboys is still exciting, in a CGI sort of way. I still can't always tell what shots are CGI or real of the planes, which I guess is a good thing! 
A little silent film like "Wings" doesn't have to be boring either. For one thing, they use the Fokker DR. VII in it!
I also liked the S. E. 5 attack on the Zeppelin in "Zeppelin" (1971). The angles are nice.
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04-26-2007, 07:06 PM
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Country: | You can check out what I will be flying and doing at .::Fighter Pilot for a Day - AirCombat Flying Adventures::.
Looking at the range of +6 to -3 g's capability on the aircraft, I think the camera should stay on the ground. I don't want to land with a pile of parts at my feet! 
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04-27-2007, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyrano  And there was the token black....not that I'm a racist, but goddamn, do we really need this racial bs on every movie? | You mean they actually acknowledged Eugene Bullard's existence - I'm quite surprised. Eugene Bullard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The caption for the attached picture reads: Quote: |
Future Lafayette Escadrille members are Victor Chapman, center back row; Edmond Genet, seated center; William Dugan, Genet’s left; Eugene Bullard, Chapman’s left. Bullard was the first African-American pilot.
| From: Americans in the French Air Service
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04-27-2007, 10:54 AM
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Country: | Not to go against the general consensus here, but I thought "Flyboys" sucked. Really was a lousy movie. Airplane scenes were pretty cool. But the whole premiss was so contrived, the dialogue forced, it just annoyed me. Watched it with some of my family and a lot of eye rolling went on.
On a different note, great pics of that Tri-plane Evan. Neat shots. | |
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04-27-2007, 12:39 PM
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Country:  | To me it was entertainment and passable at that, but it was not very accurate and therefore it will only be entertainment.
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04-27-2007, 11:49 PM
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Really was a lousy movie.
| Bummer.
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04-28-2007, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet To me it was entertainment and passable at that, but it was not very accurate and therefore it will only be entertainment. | Nonsense. Shearing enemy birds' wings off with your landing gear is a long time honored method of air-to-air combat. 
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04-29-2007, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by mkloby Nonsense. Shearing enemy birds' wings off with your landing gear is a long time honored method of air-to-air combat. | Right up there with looping and then shooting the guy with a pistol. Don't they still teach that one as a viable combat tactic at Pensacola? | |
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04-29-2007, 11:46 AM
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Country: | When in doubt, keep a cup full of pennies in the cockpit. Let the enemy get close, then open the canopy and lob out a handful of pennies to FOD his engine. Yeah, that's the ticket.
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04-29-2007, 11:54 AM
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#26 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by timshatz Right up there with looping and then shooting the guy with a pistol. Don't they still teach that one as a viable combat tactic at Pensacola? | Actually that was how the first air to air kills were recorded in WW1. The first aircraft were not fighters but rather Recon aircraft and they carried pistols obviously encase they crashed. When they saw another aircraft they would sometimes engage it with there pistol.
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04-29-2007, 12:08 PM
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Country: | Evan, saw those pics on your website and I am absolutely envious of what you've done with pics and planes. You've got some great stories along with them.
That DrI was in the movie or just a promo?
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04-29-2007, 12:27 PM
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#28 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Thanks Njaco. That particular DR.1 was used for testing the Sony Genesis camera. They mounted the camera on the bottom of a Stearman and the Fokker buzzed around and did some dogfight maneuvering with the Stearman to test the camera and train the camera operators (of whom, all got airsick at one time or another). I flew in the same Stearman for the photo shoot of that same Fokker.
More good stuff coming. I will be shooting the fight for China Commemoration next weekend (P-40 and A6M) and the Collings Foundation (B-17, B-24, B-25) as well. Both things are on the same day at Camarillo! Now, if I can get some air-to-air shooting in with either of those....
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04-29-2007, 12:36 PM
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Country: | Hell yea, air to air... Hope u get that lucky Eric...
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04-29-2007, 03:47 PM
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#30 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Very cool Eric!!!!!
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