 | movie "Flyboys"| World War I Discuss movie "Flyboys" in the Other Eras forums; Does anyone have an insider look at this movie? I know just a little of world war 1 aviation, and ... |
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09-17-2006, 03:55 AM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | movie "Flyboys"
Does anyone have an insider look at this movie? I know just a little of world war 1 aviation, and I think if done right humongous dogfights in biplanes would look incredible. I hope they dont sell out for cheap explosions...
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09-17-2006, 04:08 AM
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Country:  | I posted a trailer for this movie a while back. Does look interesting.
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09-19-2006, 06:47 PM
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Country: | I have seen a couple of explosions in the movie previews. Including one of a Zepplin exploding after being hit by a burning Fokker Dr. I. At the same time a german crewman is running away on top of the Zepplin from the flames, which he eventually perishes in. After all, there is no where off that thing but.....Down.
Reminds me a bit of a similar scene in the Unusual Disney film "The Rocketeer." Except that time it was a WWII Zepplin that exploded over the Hollywoodland Sign, killing one of it's finest actors in the process. He was in fact a Nazi spy trying to run away with US goverment secrets from the superhero Rocketeer who at the same time is trying to rescue his girlfriend. Sound interesting? 
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09-24-2006, 03:18 PM
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#4 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Haha, yes, very interesting.
Has anyone seen the movie since it came out? I want a review by knowledgeable folks, not movie critics who cant tell spad from fokker.
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09-24-2006, 03:28 PM
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#5 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Hmm cant wait to see it.
__________________  US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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09-24-2006, 04:16 PM
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#6 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | I saw it Friday night. Not bad even though it was "Hollywooded." Good flying scenes, nice replicas and the story line wasn't that bad. Just makes the uninformed believe that WW1 was fought with just Neuport 17s and Fokker Tripes, although there was a token 11/2 Strutter and a Bristol Fighter.
Some other "funny things" which I'm sure many here will identify, see the flick if you got some extra dough or else wait for it to be on cable or rent it....
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09-26-2006, 07:31 AM
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Country: | I saw a preview, nice special effects. Hope the historical accuracy is better than Pearl Harbor. | |
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09-27-2006, 11:02 AM
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#8 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | FB how was it for the "America saved the world" factor?
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09-27-2006, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks *** FB how was it for the "America saved the world" factor? | Actually I thought there was hardly none of that, in fact there was the "why aren't you guys in the war yet" situtaion shown, but of course there was a major announcement when the US entered the war.
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04-26-2007, 08:03 AM
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Country: | Just wondering, I have heard differant places that the manuvers in Flyboys are impossible for those kind WWI aircraft. They would have broken apart in mid air. So the movie was making false dogfighting moves just to make it more exciting.
Does anybody on here think that the plane manuvers were impossible or just irealistic for those planes strength?
Aside from the drama mixed in with the flying of course. That's always amped up. Like falling backwards on a Zepplin. Hard to do in real life?
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"His motor's conked out!"
"What's the differance, they're all Nazis!"
"Luke, shut up!"
"Fear the hook!"
"Oh.....I wanna fly."
"You mean the kind that go under water and fly up the stairs?"
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04-26-2007, 08:17 AM
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Country:  | All the gerries flew red Fokker Dr.I's. And there was the token black....not that I'm a racist, but goddamn, do we really need this racial bs on every movie?
Actually the whole plot reminded something from a Commando-comic book. (The good german, the bad german, rich sissy, flight commander with a troubled past (making a heroic sacrifice), etc). And the must have romantic sideplot! And as far I know the gerries didn't commit any greater atrocities than the allies, so why are they still the bad guys! Always!
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04-26-2007, 09:03 AM
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#12 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | I saw it recently, and I enjoyed it. I have a lot of weird connections with that movie, so it was about darn time I saw it. I didn't see anything too crazy with the flying scenes. I have flown an air to air photo shoot with a Fokker DR.1 replica and it's performance characteristics were pretty good, but they reason for that is because it's pretty slow. We were in a Stearman, going through a pretty steep dive. When we levelled out and started to climb again, I could hear the Fokker winding out the engine, and we were still pulling away from him...in a Stearman! So I don't think the flying scenes were terribly unrealistic if you keep in mind the speeds that they were flying in those days.
The guys I flew with for that shoot did the testing of the new Sony Genesis camera with the airplanes with the professional cameramen from the studios. The camera was used for some of the visual scenes from Flyboys using real airplanes. The flying was done the same place I shot my air to air with them and it is a perfect place for that type of shoot. Here are some highlights from my shoot with them. Notic the angle in the shot with the cropped corners. I put the airplane level in the viewfinder because we were also diving at the time. I leveled it with the horizon so that you could see the angle that we were diving at.
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04-26-2007, 11:21 AM
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#13 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Very nice shots!
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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04-26-2007, 11:30 AM
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#14 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Thanks. The first shot up there has won a number of awards and won a contest that was done for the DVD release of the movie. The coolest part of winning that contest is that the prize is a day at Air Combat USA. I will be flying aerial combat on June 2. This should be fun!
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04-26-2007, 11:52 AM
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#15 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Very awesome! That is cool! If you can take some pictures in between shooting down people! 
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