 | What would the world be like today???| World War I Discuss What would the world be like today??? in the Other Eras forums; I know, I am trying to say that WW1 may have been envitable but WW2 was preventable to a certain ... |
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05-24-2005, 05:29 AM
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#16 | | Senior Member
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Country: | I know, I am trying to say that WW1 may have been envitable but WW2 was preventable to a certain degree if the Allies had exercised reason and not let emotions cloud their judgement at the Treaty of Versailles process. It is a well-known thought in History that in the end-game of WW1 lies the seeds for WW2. The economic collapse was brought on by harsh penalties against Germany which the US was trying to help Germany to cope with. The German people had been had, they had been told they could have peace, but were given a peace which took away their means of paying their debts and were harshly treated. In the face of this oppression they looked to the one person they thought could save Germany- Hitler. At the beginning when he was elected many may have believed in what he was saying. It was only later maybe that they realised his true agenda. |
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05-24-2005, 05:53 AM
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#17 | | Senior Member
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Country: | See, World War 1 teaches everyone a lesson. Don't lose a war.
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08-06-2005, 12:51 PM
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#18 | | Senior Member
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| If WW1 hadn't happened then there would be no Revolution in Russia which
brought Bolshevicks to power.
What would happen if Germany won WWI? |
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08-06-2005, 04:05 PM
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#19 | | Senior Member
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| Have to disagree Marconi. If WWI hadn't happened the overthrow of the Russian royal family was almost certain to happen, due to corruption and poor leadership.
The question then would be would the revolution be kept within its borders, and I don't think it would have done. The Austo Hungarian empire was ready to implode and Germany would have been at risk.
My guess is that a war would have been fought between Russian revolutionary forces and the German, Austro/Hungarian armies.
France and the UK had more mature governments and would have probably kept out of it unless the Russians looked likely to win, which is most unlikely. |
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08-06-2005, 07:45 PM
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#20 | | Senior Member
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| Corruption and poor leadership are not enough to change government in such a brutal way.If there were no war Russia had much better perspectives.Year 1913 economically was the most successful year in XX century.Soviet propaganda loved to compare it with later years (under Soviet ruling):"In 1963 ***** TV-sets were produced, while in1913 0 TV-sets were produced".
Besides, if there were no war than emperor had enough soldiers to deal with rebellion like he did it in 1905.
Also it should not been forgotten that Bolsheviks got power only after SECOND upheaval in October 1917.The first one was in February and dealt with royal regime but was not made by Communists.Also Communist Party was financed by Germans so that they could sign peace treaty with new Communist Government.
So, as you can see there would be lots of problems for Bolsheviks on their way to state power and even in reality there were cases when they managed to hold their ground only because of pure luck. |
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04-15-2006, 08:06 AM
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#21 | | Senior Member
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| There's lots of new users appeared on this forum and I would like to hear their thoughts on this topic.Wouldn't you? |
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04-15-2006, 08:08 AM
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#22 | | Minister of Whoopass
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04-15-2006, 10:19 AM
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| I bet the British empire would have lasted a lot longer. The impact for America would have been enormous. No WW1, means no WW2. The US would have been an isolationist republic for most of the century.
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