Australian 'Comfort Woman' Survivor to Testify Before Congress on February 15

Emac44 · 03-04-2007, 07:21 PM

The photos below were taken by me in Singapore in October 2005. One is the Singaporean Civilian Memorial adjacent to the Padang in Singapore the other photo is of the Changi Chapel Replica near the Old Changi Prison. The Chapel was built by POWs held in captivity at Changi the original is either in Canberra or Imperial War Museum London. But there is a really good museum at Changi as well and I suggest any one going to Singapore to visit this museum and Chapel. In the Centre of The Civilian Memorial is a very Large Brass Urn. Containing the ashes of over 2500 Civilians killed by the Japanese. These Ashes are of Europeans (ENGLISH AUSTRALIAN ETC) Malays Chinese and Indian Civilians

Civettone · 03-05-2007, 04:30 AM

Who's the girl/woman??

Anyway, from the beeb (BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Japan refuses sex slave apology) :
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe says Japan will not issue another apology for its World War II military brothels. Mr Abe said none of the testimony in recent US Congress hearings showed solid proof prostitutes were abused. Elaborating on comments he made last week, he said he would not go beyond a 1993 apology on the issue, even if Washington asked for one.

Many historians say Japan compelled up to 200,000 women, mostly Chinese and Korean, to become sex slaves. But some Japanese scholars deny that force was used to round up the women, blaming private contractors for any abuses. Last Thursday Mr Abe sided with these critics, saying there was "no evidence to prove there was coercion".

The US House of Representatives is currently considering a non-binding resolution calling on Tokyo to "formally acknowledge, apologise and accept historical responsibility" for these so-called comfort women.

Kris

Emac44 · 03-05-2007, 05:30 AM

And I don't believe for one minute the Prime Minister of Japan will issue any apology regardless of what the US Congress says or does other wise. A non Binding resolution. May as well piss in the wind for all the good that would do

Here are 2 You Tube documentaries from a Chinese source. Some of it the Americans might not like as it is heavily in sections biased towards the US but it does acknowledge that the US Citizens and Soldiers along with other countries suffered similar under the Japanese. There are 2 parts
Second part you may need to become a Youtube member to view it because it is very graphic in parts

YouTube - Rape of Nanking Nanjing Massacre Part I Atrocities in Asia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqH47MIpuoA

Both run for approximately 40 minutes each both are graphic you may have too flag the second video because of extreme nature of it.

And of course if you look at all the videos associated with the Nanking Massarce the Japanese deny it even exsisted with footage of their own which could have been taken any where prior to WW2. They claim the Chinese photos are fake that the executions never took place. they have Japanese Historians of course saying it never occurred. And even TV programs saying the Nanking Massacre is a load of old tripe and demiss it entirely. You can even hear the studio audience laughing when the commentator makes a witty point. Just one problem with denying the Nanking Massacre by Japan. Their denials don't wash with their other War Crimes committed elsewhere in all of Asia and South Pacific. The treatment of Allied POWs the treatment of Civilians in Hong Kong Thailand Burma Malaysia Indonesia French Indo China (Vietnam Laos and Cambodia) Singapore Philippines and a myrid of other places. The Japanese can kid themselves all they like deny it all happened but too many others besides the Chineses are saying the same thing. Are all these other country's films and photos fake as well, Are the collective memories of millions of people stretching from countries so apart and afield all fake? The answer is no. Unlike Germany who has made reperations for generations for war atrocities committed by the Nazis. Japan has never admitted her guilt and still denys to this day her guilt. doesn't matter how many TV shows they make denying the whole war. The truth is Japan will never be let to forget her past by other nations.

FLYBOYJ · 03-05-2007, 07:25 AM

I seen one Chinese report where an old woman was mad with the US for not nuking Japan 3 or 4 more times!

Emac44 · 03-05-2007, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ

I seen one Chinese report where an old woman was mad with the US for not nuking Japan 3 or 4 more times!

You know what FBJ don't blame that old woman at all. If I had lost most of my family like she possibley did to the Japs I would say the same. Nuke the Bastards back to the Stoneage. Course it would be said in Chinese of course

FLYBOYJ · 03-05-2007, 07:52 AM

Agree....

I looked to see if I could find a Japanese Consulate where I lived - I'd love to burn a Japanese flag in front of it...

Anyone who tries to deny what the Japanese did during WW2 or lessen the severity of their actions are just a guilty as those who say there was never a Holocaust - Ignorant b@stards who should have a full lobotmoy....

Emac44 · 03-05-2007, 08:49 AM

Course FBj I checked the other videos on You Tube to be fair and I sat there totally stunned. A ****ing whitewash by an obvious Japanese Government ploy to deny Nanking. That might work with their own guilable mob of sake drinkers but it doesn't work with me. Not when you compare what occured elsewhere. Good god I hope that mob of morons don't aim it at Australians. You could imagine the furore if the Japs tried that on with the Australian Govt and my country men and women. Embassy for Japan in Canberra better hire more security because some one would ****ing lynch the pricks inside

Vassili Zaitzev · 03-05-2007, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Erich

it is acceptable denial through out japan and we are the bad boys because of the dropping of the 2 bombs on the country.

Vassili don't even go there about settlers taking Indian lands. my wife is part Cherokee and I have heard many many stories about the lies and the spreading of toxic diseases. let's face it tribes eliminated tribes all through the east before the white man came over by ship ........... well this could get OT and I won't progress any further

Sorry Erich, didn't mean to offend you.

Emac44 · 03-06-2007, 07:14 PM

I know what the members of the Former Prisoners of War Associations would think of the

ing reply by Prime Minister Abe of Japan over last few days about Comfort Women etc and of Japans continued denial of War Crimes. Especially the ex POWs of the Japanese would not be impressed one bit.

By the way came across other historical evidence of Japanese atrocities. It appears the Japanese executed German Missionaries and Civilians. along with Dutch Civilians and Servicemen in Indonesia. One incident most chilling was Dutch Soldiers were forced to see the execution of their wives and families. Wives were cut to pieces with bayonet and swords along with the children. then it was the turn of the soldiers themselves being shot beheaded or bayonetted to death. German Missionaries and Civilians fared no better as the Japanese thought they were signalling the Allies by radio etc at the time. didn't seem to matter to the Japanese that the Missionaries and German Civilians Home
Government was allied to Japan. Seems more of a case they were European and a lesser race to the Japanese and as such were executed. The 2 incidents I refer to occurred in 1943 and 1945 respectfuly.
German Civilians and Missionaries were picked up by the Japanese Naval vessel Akikaze at Wewak PNG on 18th March 1943 taken to Rabaul and on the journey all were executed as the Japs thought these Nuetrals were sending signals to the Allies
Second incident is known as the Loa Kulu Massacre taking place on 30th July 1945 Sararinda Borneo. Dutch Servicemen were forced to watched the execution of their wives and children by the Japanese. the Servicemen followed same fate. Most of the bodies of the victims were thrown down a mine shaft to hide the crime. Men Women Children massacred with out pity. Massacre site was found by Australians serving in the area some days later

FLYBOYJ · 03-08-2007, 01:30 PM

A new twist!

TOKYO - Under intense pressure from Asia and the United States, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said Thursday that ruling party lawmakers will conduct a fresh investigation into the Japanese military's forced sexual slavery of women during World War II.

Japan to probe WWII military brothels - Yahoo! News

Wildcat · 03-08-2007, 06:30 PM

What's the point? the investigation will come back saying they committed no crimes, all these women went freely to the brothels they all had a great time etc etc. If this knob jockey doens't take any notice of the witnesses and the documented history on Japanese brutality, then what hope do we have.

Cojimar 1945 · 03-08-2007, 08:26 PM

The individuals who commit crimes should be held responsible but trying to extend the blame to nations or ethnic groups seems more problematic.

Japan was on the side of America and Britain in World War I. Dioes this mean that the allies were the bad guys in that war?

FLYBOYJ · 03-08-2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cojimar 1945

The individuals who commit crimes should be held responsible but trying to extend the blame to nations or ethnic groups seems more problematic.

No one is trying to do that - the truth is the J-A-P-A-N-E-S-E committed horrific war crimes against Korean and Chinese civilians as well as allied POWs

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Originally Posted by Cojimar 1945

Japan was on the side of America and Britain in World War I. Dioes this mean that the allies were the bad guys in that war?

A totally stupid and ignorant comment - if you pulled your head out of your @ss you would find that the Japanese roll in WW1 was limited as they didn't get a chance to show the world how brutal they could really be. I suggest some remedial history classes....

Cojimar 1945 · 03-08-2007, 09:30 PM

How did the Japanese behave in the Russo-Japanese war?

FLYBOYJ · 03-08-2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cojimar 1945

How did the Japanese behave in the Russo-Japanese war?

HERE....

"Nevertheless, the treatment of prisoners by the Japanese military in wars such as the Russo-Japanese War (1904-05) and World War I (1914-18 ), was at least as humane as that of other militaries."

Japanese war crimes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia