 | Best Tank Destroyer/ self-propelled gun| WW2 General Discuss Best Tank Destroyer/ self-propelled gun in the World War II - General forums; Originally Posted by Civettone
Hold it! Self-propelled guns are not Tank Destroyers. Only the 90/53 was designed to ... |
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02-17-2007, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Civettone  Hold it! Self-propelled guns are not Tank Destroyers. Only the 90/53 was designed to kill tanks but it was a SPAT not a TD.
Besides that ... I absolutely adore the Semoventi! 
Kris | Thanks for the remark, Kris.
Actually, in the Regio Esercito the "semoventi" self-propelled guns were used often in the role of tank destroyers, but you are absolutely right, they're not properly tank destroyers. | 
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02-21-2007, 02:40 PM
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Good gun
Good protectiion
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02-21-2007, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Guchi Pj IV (Lang).
Good gun
Good protectiion
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Or was your intention the Jagdpanzer IV AKA Panzer IV/70? | |
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03-10-2007, 09:59 PM
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03-11-2007, 06:48 AM
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03-11-2007, 10:05 AM
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well...I do love the jagdpanther! 
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03-11-2007, 10:11 AM
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03-11-2007, 11:49 AM
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03-11-2007, 11:52 AM
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Country: | Here I will show you by merging them into one post. Also once you are done with your research I dont think you will be able to show that it was the best. The US, British and German Tank Destroyers had more armour and better cannons on there Tank Destroyers.
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04-13-2007, 11:09 PM
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04-18-2007, 12:51 PM
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04-20-2007, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by schwarzpanzer A girl who's into WW2 Armour??  | Where?
cos if you mean me then your wrong | |
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04-20-2007, 05:02 AM
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Country: | I know the had a 128mm gun and 250mm Armour but how much armour could the gun get through and how big a gun would you need to pierce it?
And dont say Jabo rockets | |
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04-20-2007, 08:31 AM
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About the JagdTiger, the gun could get through a couple of millimeters at most. But its shells could penetrate about 20cm at close range and 12cm at a distance of 2 kilometers. Strangily enough ... this is less than the 8.8cm gun of the Tiger II or JagdPanther.
But of the course the size of the shell and the amount of explosives also matters a bit. As such I would have used the JagdTiger as a Sturmtiger for longer range.
And about its 250mm armour, no WW2 gun could penetrate it. The same applies for the frontal armour of the regular Tiger II. Armour penetration table
Kris
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