Aircraft of World War II - Warbird Forums
 



Go Back   Aircraft of World War II - Warbird Forums > World War II - General > WW2 General

WW2 General Every WW2 related discussion besides aviation.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-16-2008, 02:57 PM   #31
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Moscow, Russia
Posts: 360
Pictures from some abandonded Cold War bunkers along the Russ-Finnish border in Karelia (56K warning)
bunker 100 mm cannon ZIF-25

spb_stalker: Казематная пушка ЗИФ-25 (100мм)

more pictures of this fortifications line:
spb_stalker: КАУ*
Ramirezzz is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2008, 07:05 PM   #32
Senior Member
 
comiso90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: FL
Posts: 3,529
Thanks for adding to the thread Ramirezzz. always great to see bunkers
__________________


http://www.BOOKSonWAR.com/
.
comiso90 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2008, 10:09 AM   #33
Senior Member
 
Marcel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Dordrecht
Posts: 4,051
A few months ago, I was in the old commandpost of the Civil rescue organisation, an organisation dedicated to emergency aid during bombing. It was dismatled after the cold war ended. Half of the bunker is an old German command bunker, the rest are newer ('70ies) atomic bunkers. Pics can be found Here: Index
__________________

"To attack 36 aircraft on your own was rather much" - Jan Linzel, D.XXI pilot.
Marcel is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2008, 10:21 AM   #34
Der Crewchief
 
DerAdlerIstGelandet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Ansbach, Germany
Posts: 34,079
Quote:
Originally Posted by seesul View Post
The same for me. Wanted to visit Berchtesgaden this year but it looks bad. But next year I gotta make it. If you wanna see any bunker here, next spring would be good for me. If also for you, we will make it.
I will keep that in mind and see what we can do. I do not live very far from teh Czech border.
__________________


fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"
DerAdlerIstGelandet is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2008, 12:12 PM   #35
Senior Member
 
seesul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Zlin, Czech Republic
Posts: 2,856
Send a message via Skype™ to seesul
Quote:
Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet View Post
I will keep that in mind and see what we can do. I do not live very far from teh Czech border.
OK!
__________________


Roman Susil
Zlin, Czech Republic

...a friend of Joe Owsianik,So. Plainfield, NJ, a former left waist gunner from B-17G ''Tail End Charlie" from 2ndBG,20th Sqdn who was forced to bail out on Aug. 29th, 1944 over my country.
seesul is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2008, 03:12 PM   #36
Senior Member
 
Messy1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Ankeny, Iowa
Posts: 1,678
I heard about this on the radio from Paul Harvey. Stuff like this never happens in Iowa!
__________________
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
George S. Patton

"When you are at the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on!" Franklin Roosevelt
Messy1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2008, 10:01 PM   #37
Senior Member
 
freebird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 2,322
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt308 View Post
3/4in is far enough. OUCH! Do you have any pics of what these spikes would look like before being set? Sounds like friggin' caltrops!

Didn't make a detailed inspection at the time!


I don't remember, but the local doctor told my dad that they had found stuff on the beaches over the years, bits of rusty barbed wire etc.

I think the largest spikes were meant to impale boats, LCV's etc, and they set smaller spikes to catch men or inflatables coming ashore. I believe that they did not anticipate front-door LCV's, they probably expected small boats & rubber rafts.

There were alot of bunkers/pillboxes above the beaches, so if they could snag incoming troops they had longer to fire on them before they got ashore.
__________________
freebird is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2008, 06:25 AM   #38
Der Crewchief
 
DerAdlerIstGelandet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Ansbach, Germany
Posts: 34,079
Quote:
Originally Posted by freebird View Post
Didn't make a detailed inspection at the time!


I don't remember, but the local doctor told my dad that they had found stuff on the beaches over the years, bits of rusty barbed wire etc.

I think the largest spikes were meant to impale boats, LCV's etc, and they set smaller spikes to catch men or inflatables coming ashore. I believe that they did not anticipate front-door LCV's, they probably expected small boats & rubber rafts.

There were alot of bunkers/pillboxes above the beaches, so if they could snag incoming troops they had longer to fire on them before they got ashore.
That is the same in Normandy. Last time I went up there, I found lots of shrapnel, barbed wire and even large shell casings still buried in the sand.
__________________


fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"
DerAdlerIstGelandet is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2008, 08:07 AM   #39
Senior Member
 
Messy1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Ankeny, Iowa
Posts: 1,678
I will make it over to Normandy sometime in my life.
__________________
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
George S. Patton

"When you are at the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on!" Franklin Roosevelt
Messy1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2008, 09:20 AM   #40
Senior Member
 
RabidAlien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Hurst, Texas
Posts: 3,476
Quote:
Originally Posted by Messy1 View Post
I will make it over to Normandy sometime in my life.
Ditto.
__________________


Pillage, then burn.

Argue not with dragons, for thou art crunchy and go well on toast.
RabidAlien is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2008, 08:08 AM   #41
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Phila, Pa
Posts: 3,820
Went to Normandy back in 1994. The movies do not do justice to that beach. Omaha is a shooting gallery from the perspective of the Germans.

It's a decent up angle to the top of what I would guess is a 60ft rise. No cover (came in at low tide) and a good 1/4 mile of ground to cover before you even get to the dry sand. It's amazing any of them made it.
timshatz is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2008, 09:00 AM   #42
Senior Member
 
Messy1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Ankeny, Iowa
Posts: 1,678
Scares me just trying to imagine covering that distance while under fire! Cannot imagine what was going through those brave men's minds.
__________________
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
George S. Patton

"When you are at the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on!" Franklin Roosevelt
Messy1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2008, 09:19 AM   #43
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Phila, Pa
Posts: 3,820
Quote:
Originally Posted by Messy1 View Post
Scares me just trying to imagine covering that distance while under fire! Cannot imagine what was going through those brave men's minds.
Yeah, tell me about. Absolute terror. I guess that's why they train so hard. So when the terror comes, you do as you are trained and just don't sit there dumbstruck.
timshatz is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2008, 10:10 AM   #44
Senior Member
 
Messy1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Ankeny, Iowa
Posts: 1,678
Very true Tim!
__________________
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
George S. Patton

"When you are at the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on!" Franklin Roosevelt
Messy1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2008, 11:57 AM   #45
Der Crewchief
 
DerAdlerIstGelandet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Ansbach, Germany
Posts: 34,079
Quote:
Originally Posted by timshatz View Post
Went to Normandy back in 1994. The movies do not do justice to that beach. Omaha is a shooting gallery from the perspective of the Germans.

It's a decent up angle to the top of what I would guess is a 60ft rise. No cover (came in at low tide) and a good 1/4 mile of ground to cover before you even get to the dry sand. It's amazing any of them made it.
I was there in 1994. My ROTC unit laid a wreath during the ceremony. I actually went to Normany on several occasions including 1994, 1997 and 1999. Me and my wife are going to try and get back there next summer.

You are correct though about how the movies do not do it justice. I remember walking down to the water and walking about a few meters and then running up the beach just to get a feel of what they saw. I can not even imagine what it must have been like under fire.
__________________


fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"
DerAdlerIstGelandet is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:20 AM.
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
Design by HTWoRKS


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125