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09-26-2005, 05:42 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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If you could change a part on any WW2 machines, what would they be?
e.g. giving the Lancaster a belly turret and/or ditching the dorsal?
Fw190 BMW engines in the Nachtjager Me110's?
I would let Porsche concentrate on making a 'big' and 'small' petrol, boxer-12 tank engine to replace the crappy Maybachs.
He was also good with (conventional!!) gearboxes, so while he's there...
This would allow for eg. higher performance and sloped rear armour on the PzIV and better performance/reliability on the Tiger/Panther.
Also, it should also have allowed heavier frontal armour. | 
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09-26-2005, 05:48 PM
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| P38's with Merlins.
B17/B24 with R2800's.
B25 strafers with a dozen cannons
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09-26-2005, 05:51 PM
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#3 | | Forum Politruk
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Country:  | Hmm, interesting idea with the Lanc - but you'd be cutting down the bomb load big time, (Harris would never, ever countenance that) and after a couple of inital nasty shocks for the LW nightfighters, they'd just change tactics again and attack from above. | |
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09-26-2005, 06:04 PM
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I'm sure I read somewhere about a (real) modification to the Lanc involving a glass sight-hole in the floor manned by a crewmember (bomber?) which gave warning of Shrage Muzic fighters.
Anyone else heard this?
Interesting Syscom How about a Mossie? 
I suppose Nitrous would be good for the Lanc? | |
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09-26-2005, 06:07 PM
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Country: | Dunno, I can ask my Gran.....
I've heard of the Rose turret which gave better visibility to the rear gunner. Only a few Lancs were fitted with them though. | |
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09-26-2005, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by schwarzpanzer Oh crap I nearly forgot!!
I'm sure I read somewhere about a (real) modification to the Lanc involving a glass sight-hole in the floor manned by a crewmember (bomber?) which gave warning of Shrage Muzic fighters.
Anyone else heard this?
Interesting Syscom How about a Mossie?
I suppose Nitrous would be good for the Lanc? | I'm sure I have heard of that as well schwarzpanzer. Nitrous in the Lanc would be good or just Nitrous injected Merlins.
Changes let see...
I'd agree with most of the changes already mentioned for a start.
Mossie with 4x30mm instead of 4x20mm. P-38 with a nose full of cannon. Lanc with 50 cals instead of 303's (some did have a few) or even some 20mm's in the tail and more powerful Merlins. P-47 with 6 cannon instead of 8 50's? Longer range FW190. ME262 with decent engines. Carrier borne P-38. Better armored and gunned allied tanks - not sure how though - similar to the Churchill/Patton with more armor?
I'm sure I could think of some more but that is me for now.
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09-26-2005, 07:02 PM
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| Nice ideas Gnomey, some I've even had myself! 
I thought some Merlins had nitrous? (P51's?) Quote: |
Better armored and gunned allied tanks - not sure how though - similar to the Churchill/Patton with more armor?
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I suppose tank destroyers based on the Churchill or Cromwell/Comet in the JagdPanther/SU100 vein would be interesting?
The Firefly and 'easy-8' are interesting upgrades of the Sherman.
The Comet was meant to have had a sloping glacis, that would have been a smart move also.
There was also the Churchill 'Black Prince' and the 'super Pershing'. | |
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09-26-2005, 07:02 PM
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#8 | | the old Sage
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Country:  | all Luftwaffe prop driven to be replaced by enclosed jet engines~ upgraded and inclosed aerodynamic fuel systems and swept wings. | |
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09-26-2005, 07:06 PM
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Country: | Changes???? How about just one....
Drop the Me-109 project in 1939 and put ALL available assets and $$$ into the Fw-190 program and let Kurt Tank run absolutly apeshiit with his ideas and visions....
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09-26-2005, 07:08 PM
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09-26-2005, 07:44 PM
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Country: | OK erich... OK....
2 changes....
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09-26-2005, 07:55 PM
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#12 | | the old Sage
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Country: |  just thinking of the future jet programs friend.........
but you are right of the many many test pieces and paper projects in the works from the Focke`Wulf minds` geez I could easily get a migrane trying to grasp what would of been had Germany had the resources through 1948 | |
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09-27-2005, 06:20 AM
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#13 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Im with Les on his idea, exactly what he said and nothing further.
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09-27-2005, 07:52 AM
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Country: | Good idea Les I'd be all for that, be interesting to see what they would have come up with.
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09-28-2005, 01:06 PM
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#15 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I think Tank would have gone wild and we may have seen the Ta-183 and the Ta-400. I know the airwar over Europe might have looked a lot different.
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