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View Poll Results: How Long could America have lasted?
Immediate capitulation 1 4.76%
Honourable surrender after many heroic defeats 7 33.33%
Fought to a stalemate 8 38.10%
Eventually won 5 23.81%
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Old 06-09-2007, 10:16 AM   #181
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Was folks like that around in 40's? On the other hand, we still have the always pleasant people in the mob....
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Was folks like that around in 40's? On the other hand, we still have the always pleasant people in the mob....
There were, especially in NYC, LA and Chicago and yes the actual mob wouldn't of appreciated an invading army...
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Old 06-09-2007, 11:20 AM   #183
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What are firepower and maneuver brigades?
What I meant to say is the cost of landing heavy engineering eqmt (like bridging eqmt), comes at the cost of trnasporting more tnaks, howitzers, ammunition, etc.

And the heavy engineering folks are not your front line infantry that does the bulk of the fighting.

The allies had this issue to deal with during the Normandy invasion. The issue of how many engineering and support units that had to be landed vs the number of divisions that were needed to fight inland was discussed and argued about for weeks prior to the invasion.

The armies that listen to the logisticians usually end up winning the fight.
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Had an interesting thought about the Japanese in this scenario. I know the thread is about the world against the US, but what do the Japanese have to gain going against the US? The quick answer might be they would get the Western Pacific, but given the US needs on her homeland, they would probably end up the defacto power in charge out there anyway.

The Japanese attacked the US in 1941 because we embargoed them. We embargoed them because they occupied French Indochina. We cut off supplies of, and most importantly, oil. If Europe goes to war against the US, then Japanese actions in the West of the Pacific to secure strategic supplies will help the US. An attack by the Japanese against Indochina (France), Malaysia and Singapore (England) and Java/Borneo (Dutch) helps the US against the Atlantic Force. The US might even strip the Phillipines, give the Phillipines their independence a couple years earlier (we were shooting for 1946 back in 1941) and head back to Hawaii as our main base in the Pacific. The Western Pacific, if the US is in a war for it's survival, might be a useless draw on our forces.

If the US does pull back (or even if it does nothing), it still allows the Japanese a free hand against countries that are engaged in a major war in the Atlantic. The Japanese attacking the US gains them nothing (the Phillipines, Guam, Wake, maybe Midway and Hawaii) in terms of strategic materials and more ground to cover. Attacking the European possessions allows the needed materials.

In short, probably a good chance the Japanese end up on the side of the US in this thing. That is where they gain the most.
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