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02-20-2008, 09:27 PM
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02-22-2008, 09:43 PM
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Country:  | Fg-42 is a beautiful weapon. But not a shoulder weapon.
And StG is a heavy weapon. Perhaps not for its time, but heavy nonetheless. However, I would take one over a Thompson.
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Originally Posted by Matt308  Fg-42 is a beautiful weapon. But not a shoulder weapon.
And StG is a heavy weapon. Perhaps not for its time, but heavy nonetheless. However, I would take one over a Thompson. | Me, too; the world's first true "assault rifle". I understand you can actually still buy replicas of the StG 44; I would love to have one! Although the "oddball" 7.92mm ammo might be hard to come by; everything else has gone to 7.62 mm (including the "modern-day" MG 42, the MG 3).
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Country: | Not a shoulder weapon??? The FG 42????
Comeon...... Ive fired it before, from the shoulder, quite similar to this guy.... YouTube - Fg-42 Fallschirmjägergewehr
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02-23-2008, 08:57 AM
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| The FG-42 is very much a shoulder weapon, infact its one of the most comfortable and easy to wield full power automatic rifles.
The straight inline stock & muzzle brake really helps allot to lessen recoil and muzzle rise. For this reason the straight inline stock has also become a standard in assault rifles, as-well as the muzzle brake.
The M-14 is for comparison a beast to try and control in automatic fire, suffering from allot of muzzle rise.
Also owing to its design the FG-42 is allot more comfortable to wield than most weapons, most who have fired both versions of the FG-42 note how it just fits like a glove.
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Originally Posted by lesofprimus | Sorry Les. Disagree. Too high a rate of fire for 8mm Mauser on full auto. It would take a disciplined SEAL to prevent it from walking up...
Oh nevermind.
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02-23-2008, 05:31 PM
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Country: | Look gents, you look at that guy in Les' video and he is about a 100MOA shooter for a 4rnd burst. Been there done that.
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| Matt,
The FG-42 is a selective fire weapon, and thus can be sired at either semi or fully automatic. The great thing about the FG-42 though is that when firing at semi automatic it does so from a closed bolt, making it extremely accurate. Furthermore when it fires at fully automatic it does so from an open bolt, preventing cook offs. And on top of this the inline stock and muzzle brake make recoil & muzzle rise very mild in comparison to e.g. the M-14 or BAR. So the FG-42 is very much a shoulder weapon.
In the FG-42 you've got a 4.5 kg LMG, automatic rifle & sniper rifle all in one, with bipod, scope, bayonet and the lot...
Hence why the FG-42 is such a fantastic smallarm, the swiss-army knife of infantry rifles 
You just can't help but love it!  
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| I haven't shot anything automatic from my shoulder so you may want to discount this statement but I have done a lot of target shooting.
If that video is considered accurate then I am a chinaman, its waving around like a fiddlers elbow. | |
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02-24-2008, 05:14 AM
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| Automatic fire is never accurate from the shoulder.
Take a look at the other vids I linked. Controlled bursts is the way.
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| They were controlled bursts as far as I could tell and to be honest they seem to have to clear the gun a number of times.
As I said I haven't fired anything automatic of that type. I would appreciate some guidance with people with experience in these weapons. | |
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| That the Italian guy had to clear the gun a number of times can be attributed to a number of things, improper cleaning & maintenance of the gun (Using too much or too little lubricant, using too much oil will make a gun jam constantly), ammunition type used etc etc... But one also has to keep in mind that these guns are over 60 years old & well used.
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| Looking at the vids again the guy only had to clear the gun once in all of the vids, the stovepipe occuring with the second version with the 40 round mag. The mag is unoriginal according to the guy so that is probably the reason behind the stovepipe.
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Originally Posted by Glider I haven't shot anything automatic from my shoulder so you may want to discount this statement but I have done a lot of target shooting.
If that video is considered accurate then I am a chinaman, its waving around like a fiddlers elbow. | Thankyou.
You would have to measure that in minute-of-barn. And lets be honest, semi-auto from the shoulder was not its forte'.
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