German Ziess Zielacht 8x Scope - Aircraft of World War II

dirtbag · 06-18-2009, 11:21 AM

Hi lads , looking for info/history on this scope ive got for my k98 project
serial nr.2185, I have been told by a bloke with a book of serial number ranges that it was made in 1922.

I have seen a thread on these started by a bloke called SOREN (the world famous youtube shooting video man) He had some pics and info on the scopes, would be good if he saw this thread !

Does anybody have any references or pictures of Germans using this 8x on their K98s (i know on EATG film one was used but films can get things wrong)

I have this reference from a bloke selling one (not sure if it is bollarks)

"These were mostly used in the far north w the open expanses and low light conditions made them a better choice because of the large objective lens ability to gather light and the longer distances to targets and by Gebirgsjager, mountain troops"

CHeers for your help

Soren · 06-18-2009, 02:05 PM

Hey dirtbag,

Sorry I didn't respond to your post, was on a little vacation at that time

I sadly don't have any pictures of its use in the German army at this moment. But Peter Senich mentions its use with the Scharfschützen. I'll have a look around and see if I can gather more info.

But I'd say the bloke might be right about the possible use by the Gebirgsjaegers, makes sense for the reasons he listed.

Btw, it may interest you to know that many German scharfschützen actually used their own hunting scopes and rifles sometimes. There are some instances of Gewehr 98b's being used with high power hunting scopes by German snipers, while ofcourse still being in the same caliber as the military rifles: 7.92x57mm. Interestingly there are a few k98k's which were captured which were in the caliber 8x68, again an example of a Sniper's own personal hunting rifle having been taken into military use.

dirtbag · 06-18-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Soren

Hey dirtbag,

Sorry I didn't respond to your post, was on a little vacation at that time

I sadly don't have any pictures of its use in the German army at this moment. But Peter Senich mentions its use with the Scharfschützen. I'll have a look around and see if I can gather more info.

But I'd say the bloke might be right about the possible use by the Gebirgsjaegers, makes sense for the reasons he listed.

Hi Soren, no problem, you and your videos are sure an ispiration to the avid shooters out there me included.

Question : me with that 8 power on the k98, is 1000 yards with good ammo possible assuming that i'm good with the setup ?

Soren · 06-18-2009, 02:47 PM

Dirtbag,

It isn't my own videos, but a friend's videos, and yes he sure is a great shot!

Regarding your question; Yes, if your rifle is in mint condition and you choose the right ammunition (Preferably FMJ-BT bullets), then accurate shooting out to 1,000 meters is certainly possible (German snipers have confirmed kills all the way out to 1,100 meters

). But remember it takes a steady hand with any rifle at that range

dirtbag · 06-18-2009, 03:09 PM

Cool, if you find any more info on the scope be sure to let me know, cheers for your help

dirtbag · 06-20-2009, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soren

Dirtbag,

It isn't my own videos, but a friend's videos, and yes he sure is a great shot!

Regarding your question; Yes, if your rifle is in mint condition and you choose the right ammunition (Preferably FMJ-BT bullets), then accurate shooting out to 1,000 meters is certainly possible (German snipers have confirmed kills all the way out to 1,100 meters

). But remember it takes a steady hand with any rifle at that range

Hi Soren, I have managed to borrow a copy of the Senich book German Sniper, could you tell me what area it mentions the 8 power please ?

cheers

Soren · 06-20-2009, 03:32 PM

If it isn't in that book he mentions it then I can't remember where dirtbag, I'll have to check.

dirtbag · 06-20-2009, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soren

If it isn't in that book he mentions it then I can't remember where dirtbag, I'll have to check.

Ok mate, I have another look for it (its a big book !)

Soren · 06-20-2009, 03:38 PM

Sure is, but great as-well!

dirtbag · 06-25-2009, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soren

Sure is, but great as-well!

Ok I have done some shameful editing with PSP, and have managed to pan out what my rfile will look like.

I still cant find the quotes in the book, but still looking :>

Soren · 06-25-2009, 03:56 PM

Hehe nice picture there dirtbag, it will look grat once you get it on no doubt

I've had a look in the book as-well and I can't find it either. Must have read it somewhere else. I've got a load of other books on the K98k as-well, Ill have a look see if I can find anything on it in them.

dirtbag · 06-25-2009, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soren

Hehe nice picture there dirtbag, it will look grat once you get it on no doubt

I've had a look in the book as-well and I can't find it either. Must have read it somewhere else. I've got a load of other books on the K98k as-well, Ill have a look see if I can find anything on it in them.

Thanks mate :>

dirtbag · 11-18-2009, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soren

Hehe nice picture there dirtbag, it will look grat once you get it on no doubt

I've had a look in the book as-well and I can't find it either. Must have read it somewhere else. I've got a load of other books on the K98k as-well, Ill have a look see if I can find anything on it in them.

Hey Soren, long time no speak, I have my K98 home with the Zielacht, check it out !

K98 sniper project finally done - Gunboard's Forums

cheers DB

Soren · 11-19-2009, 11:04 AM

Hey mate!

That just looks absolutly fantastic DB! Looks very authentic. You are one lucky guy!

Any chance we can some pictures of the optics/crosshairs, always fun to see what type of crosshairs are used on Zielacht scopes

dirtbag · 11-19-2009, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soren

Hey mate!

That just looks absolutly fantastic DB! Looks very authentic. You are one lucky guy!

Any chance we can some pictures of the optics/crosshairs, always fun to see what type of crosshairs are used on Zielacht scopes

Yfrog - 21052009115

thanks mate, here is a picture of the optic, did you ever find out any more sources on the 8 powers by any chance ?

06-18-2009, 11:21 AM	#1
dirtbag Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 12	German Ziess Zielacht 8x Scope Hi lads , looking for info/history on this scope ive got for my k98 project serial nr.2185, I have been told by a bloke with a book of serial number ranges that it was made in 1922. I have seen a thread on these started by a bloke called SOREN (the world famous youtube shooting video man) He had some pics and info on the scopes, would be good if he saw this thread ! Does anybody have any references or pictures of Germans using this 8x on their K98s (i know on EATG film one was used but films can get things wrong) I have this reference from a bloke selling one (not sure if it is bollarks) "These were mostly used in the far north w the open expanses and low light conditions made them a better choice because of the large objective lens ability to gather light and the longer distances to targets and by Gebirgsjager, mountain troops" CHeers for your help

06-18-2009, 02:05 PM	#2
Soren Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,625	Hey dirtbag, Sorry I didn't respond to your post, was on a little vacation at that time I sadly don't have any pictures of its use in the German army at this moment. But Peter Senich mentions its use with the Scharfschützen. I'll have a look around and see if I can gather more info. But I'd say the bloke might be right about the possible use by the Gebirgsjaegers, makes sense for the reasons he listed. Btw, it may interest you to know that many German scharfschützen actually used their own hunting scopes and rifles sometimes. There are some instances of Gewehr 98b's being used with high power hunting scopes by German snipers, while ofcourse still being in the same caliber as the military rifles: 7.92x57mm. Interestingly there are a few k98k's which were captured which were in the caliber 8x68, again an example of a Sniper's own personal hunting rifle having been taken into military use. Last edited by Soren; 06-18-2009 at 02:10 PM.

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06-18-2009, 02:47 PM	#4
Soren Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,625	Dirtbag, It isn't my own videos, but a friend's videos, and yes he sure is a great shot! Regarding your question; Yes, if your rifle is in mint condition and you choose the right ammunition (Preferably FMJ-BT bullets), then accurate shooting out to 1,000 meters is certainly possible (German snipers have confirmed kills all the way out to 1,100 meters ). But remember it takes a steady hand with any rifle at that range

06-18-2009, 03:09 PM	#5
dirtbag Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 12	Cool, if you find any more info on the scope be sure to let me know, cheers for your help

06-20-2009, 03:32 PM	#7
Soren Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,625	If it isn't in that book he mentions it then I can't remember where dirtbag, I'll have to check.

06-20-2009, 03:38 PM	#9
Soren Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,625	Sure is, but great as-well!

06-25-2009, 03:56 PM	#11
Soren Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,625	Hehe nice picture there dirtbag, it will look grat once you get it on no doubt I've had a look in the book as-well and I can't find it either. Must have read it somewhere else. I've got a load of other books on the K98k as-well, Ill have a look see if I can find anything on it in them.

11-19-2009, 11:04 AM	#14
Soren Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,625	Hey mate! That just looks absolutly fantastic DB! Looks very authentic. You are one lucky guy! Any chance we can some pictures of the optics/crosshairs, always fun to see what type of crosshairs are used on Zielacht scopes