 | Germans demand apology for allied bombing raids| WW2 General Discuss Germans demand apology for allied bombing raids in the World War II - General forums; Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet
You are dead wrong RG_Lunatic. A soldier is a soldier no matter what side he fights ... |
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12-07-2004, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet You are dead wrong RG_Lunatic. A soldier is a soldier no matter what side he fights on. German soldiers fought for there country and many of them did not fight for Hitler. They fought for Germany which any self respecting citizen would do. My Grandfather was a very honorable man, was until the day he died and he was a Major in the Wehrmacht, so are you saying he has no honor because he recieve notification that he had to join the Wehrmacht because they were in short supply of doctors and he answered his countries call and put on a uniform? I do not expect you to understand this because you have never experienced it. I wear a uniform and it has an American flag on my right shoulder. I carry out orders and do my duty for the United States America and that is nothing different than what most German soldiers did in WW2. And most of them had and still do today have honor. It is easy for a civilian to talk about soldiers like that, I do not expect you to understand. I fought Iraqi soldiers and I do I hate them and think they are dishonorable no they were fighting for there country. God bless all soldiers and may they keep there honor! | Okay, I will accept that some German soldiers had honor. But so many German soldiers followed illegal orders, especially on the E. front, it is hard to accord honor to those who did deserve it.
I will post some diaries of Wehrmacht soldiers for you to read.
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12-08-2004, 02:02 PM
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#257 | | Master of Ewes
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12-08-2004, 06:11 PM
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12-08-2004, 06:15 PM
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#259 | | He who does not skim
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12-08-2004, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass but even if they didn't want to carry out an order, they bloddy well had to, they didn't have that choise, you can't blame them for that.............. | It depends on the order.
A small number of Heer did object and refuse to follow what in their eyes were illegal orders. While a number were transfered to other units, their is actually little evidence that any drastic measures were taken against them.
It appears that the Nazi high command was keen to keep its illegal activities as low key as possible, so rather than force units to obey these orders, if any did object, they would find other units to do it instead
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12-10-2004, 01:12 AM
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12-12-2004, 07:51 AM
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12-12-2004, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by HealzDevo Agreed, but then I suppose maybe the French leader is worried that he could be tried for his actions. Because he has been trying to hold the whole EU to his will, so it seems... France really needs to get kicked again by the Germans and this time France should become permenantly part of Germany. That is the only way a better French race will ever develop... | And here's us thinking we had dealt with the silly people who thought like this in 45 
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12-22-2004, 05:50 AM
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12-22-2004, 11:07 AM
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Country: | Forget about Germany taking it, England should take it. Henry V did it, and Henry VI was King of England and France. Shame on them for not holding it, not even holding Normandy and Brittany...
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12-22-2004, 11:14 AM
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12-22-2004, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by HealzDevo No, this is a real thing that the French really need someone to do something about them. They have a real problem which needs to be sorted out. The arrogance of French leaders needs to be permanently shaken out of them. Look at the French president and you will see what I mean. | It ain't only the leaders. | |
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12-22-2004, 11:23 AM
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Country: | Not exactly all of France though, is it? As well put by the team on Top Gear 'France is only a country you drive to, to get to Italy. That's all it's there for'. It's a nice country actually, shame about it being full of the French.
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12-22-2004, 11:29 AM
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12-22-2004, 11:31 AM
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Country: | Spanish aren't really bad. I suppose you'd be grumpy too if your country was invaded by loud-mouthed lager louts all year round.
The Portugese are Englands only Ally in Britain, throughout history Portugal is the only country in Europe that Britain hasn't faced on the battlefield. Naturally, British and Portugese normally get on well...they are decent people...and the country doesn't think it's the daddy...like France does.
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