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10-29-2004, 06:50 AM
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#1 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country: | Germans demand apology for allied bombing raids I just recieived a pice of news that Germany demand the the Queen to make an apology for the bombing raids during WW2. Here is the article: Quote:
Germans Demand Queen Apologise for WWII
Dresden after the RAF raid of 1945
The Queen is being urged to apologise to the German people for Allied bombing raids carried out during Second World War.
A major German newspaper piled pressure on the monarch, just days before a state visit, with pictures of the bombing of Dresden and the headline “Will the Queen finally say sorry?”
The inflammatory move is believed to be part of a greater clamour among German politicians and diplomats to get Britain to apologise.
The demands have outraged ex-servicemen and women across the UK, many of whom risked their lives on a daily basis in the fight against Hitler.
War veterans groups were almost unanimous in their condemnation of the Germans' call for an apology.
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Peter Storrar, from the RAF’s 610 Squadron Association, said: “They started it and reaped the whirlwind.
“I remember seeing Liverpool absolutely devastated and it was like that all over Britain.”
Col John Goodsir, vice-chairman of the Air Crew Association, said: “The majority of our members who served in the Second World War would not favour the idea of the Queen saying sorry.”
The Queen, who lived in London during the Blitz, is due to begin a royal visit on Tuesday.
She will attend a charity performance of the Berlin Philharmonic intended to raise cash for the restoration of Dresden Cathedral.
"They started it and reaped the whirlwind"
-Peter Storrar - RAF 610 Squadron Association
The Dresden raids in 1945 claimed about 40,000 German lives.
They were designed to crack German morale with wave upon wave of British and US bombers resulting in firestorms on the ground from which there was no escape.
Supporters say the raids hastened the end of the war, but critics say they may not have been tactically necessary.
| Its ridiculous. There was also a poll on the site saying whether the queen should apologise, and 94% say no she shouldnt.
You can vote here: http://channels.aolsvc.co.uk/news/ar...29060009990002
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10-29-2004, 07:51 PM
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#2 | | Senior Member
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Country: | I'll repeat myself, but...
Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot. Over.
Who the hell do they think they are ? Germans demanding apology for Allied bombings ? Why not demanding Jews to apologize for resisting to their execution ? Or why not demanding apology for executing their remaning leaders at Nuremberg ?
Do they realize they are acting like freaking idiots ? I read in a newspaper (a while back) that Nazism was geting stronger in Germany since 1980. Looks like it's true.
I hope the Queen won't apologize. |
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10-29-2004, 08:50 PM
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Country: | The Queen should tell them to piss off. I lived three years in the UK adn developed quite a fondness for the Brits. They have NO reason to apologize for that. They were helpiing to end something that the Germans started!
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10-30-2004, 07:41 AM
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#4 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | i'm sorry but i'm part german and even i think that's rediculus, what would they say if the jews made them apologise?? why should we apologise to them, what did we do that they didn't??
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10-30-2004, 08:59 AM
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Country: | The worst part is that they are demanding an apology from the Queen, but not the US President. Both the RAF and the USAAF pounded Dresden, RAF at night, AAF in the day. I guess they probably realize if they asked Bush for an apology, he would probably tell them to kiss his Texas ass. 
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10-30-2004, 10:10 AM
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The fact remains though that they are idiots.
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10-30-2004, 12:37 PM
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#7 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | i really hope the queen doesn't apologise, the germans haven't apologised for bombing our cities, do we demand an apology for every commonwealth person killed in the war?? no, because that would be rediculus....................
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10-30-2004, 02:41 PM
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Country: | Exactly. And why do they want an apology from the Queen? She had nothing to do with World War 2
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10-30-2004, 04:31 PM
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Country: | I think everyone on this site know how much I like UK. But I must say that if ever the Queen apologize, all the love and respect I have for UK will be "flushed away".
But, hey, think about it : who forced the Allies to do that ? Didn't Hitler said : "If the Allies wants to take Berlin, we'll let them take only ruins." ?
Now some statistics :
WW I casualities : 8,000,000 deads (total)
WW II casualities : 40,000,000 deads (total) (20,000,000 Russians (2,000,000 only during the Stalingrad battle) - 6,000,000 Jews - 5,000,000 Allies.)
And Germany wants UK to apologize ?????
Am I the only one to be pissed off ? |
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10-30-2004, 04:35 PM
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Country: | No, im damn pissed off too.
And if for some stupid reason the Queen apologises, then I will be ashamed to be British.
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10-30-2004, 05:56 PM
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Country: | You have a better chance of seeing Usama Bin Laden pop his head outta the Queens ass than see her apologize to the Germans....
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10-30-2004, 09:16 PM
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I'm sure there's more to the story than we can see here, lets just cool down a little and wait and see?
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10-31-2004, 09:06 AM
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Country: | Cool down? There isnt much to be cool about here...
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10-31-2004, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass i'm sorry but i'm part german and even i think that's rediculus, what would they say if the jews made them apologise?? why should we apologise to them, what did we do that they didn't?? |
The Germans did apologise.
For both WW2 AND the Holocaust... |
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10-31-2004, 11:13 AM
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| Oh yeah, wasn't Dresden mainly a US effort? |
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