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Country:  | Göring had one relative in the USAAF. Werner G. Göring was the son of Göring's younger Brother Karl and was a Captian and pilot of B-17 bombers. Werner flew 48 combat missions over Germany.
By the way Göring's daughter is still alive today and still lives in Munich, Germany.
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Country:  | I believe there was also Peter Goering, a nephew, who was killed on a sub during 1943. I think I posted that last month or so.
I always thought Goering took over JG 1 from Richtohfen and wasn't promoted Feldmarschall until 19 July 1940.
Starling, sorry to hear of your trials but it sounds and looks like you're fighting and overcoming. Thumbs-up to you!
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet  Göring had one relative in the USAAF. Werner G. Göring was the son of Göring's younger Brother Karl and was a Captian and pilot of B-17 bombers. Werner flew 48 combat missions over Germany.
By the way Göring's daughter is still alive today and still lives in Munich, Germany. | Hello D.I.A.G.,
I find it very surprising that the USAAF allowed/trusted “him” to be engaged in missions against or over Germany.
BTW how are AH nephews doing in the USA?
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06-21-2008, 12:58 PM
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Country:  | i will try to upload my avatar,as recomended.i also will try to upload the ones where my grandad is sitting in the cocpit of a late model me-109 with his dog,those are a bit fuzzy.i looked at the pictures in a magnifying glass,and it looks like an old scrapyard,bits and pieces,twisted metal and allsorts.yours,starling.
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06-21-2008, 02:54 PM
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06-21-2008, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Kruska Hello D.I.A.G.,
I find it very surprising that the USAAF allowed/trusted “him” to be engaged in missions against or over Germany.
BTW how are AH nephews doing in the USA?
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Kruska | Apparantly the copilot had orders to shoot him if he tried to defect with a plane.
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Originally Posted by parsifal | Speaking of "Flyboyisms" thank goodness I was finally able to upload my new siggy, otherwise I was likely to get something different than I wanted..... 
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Originally Posted by Kruska
In summary; due to his enormous amount of functions and political inflictions Goering wasn’t able to fulfill even one task properly (besides the Hunting department) whose laws apply until today. He failed miserably in the Industrial development Ministry – since Germany’s industry was not war programmed/instructed till 1943 at all.
The buildup of the Luftwaffe was conducted by others such as Wever (pursued 4 mot bombers) Stumpff, Jeschonnek, Udet and Kesselring. HG was very opposed to all planning’s towards war by AH and almost screwed up the occupation of Czechoslovakia – after that AH isolated HG in regards to foreign policy.
HG made a total blunder out of the BoB and carries most of the fault’s that caused the Stalingrad fiasco. HG had no influence or anything to do with the development of tactical or strategically setup of the Luftwaffe, he presided over the respective department bodies.
IMO, HG was the most precious contribution the allies could have wished for.
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| So I guess what you are saying is that the Luftwaffe succeeded in 39' - 42' in spite of Goerings blunders?
Perhaps you are right....
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