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09-21-2007, 10:52 AM
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| No one is shocked, it's just a graphic illustration of barbarity personified. It's a glimpse we haven't had before. . |
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09-21-2007, 05:18 PM
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__________________  fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" | |
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09-21-2007, 06:13 PM
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__________________  JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"  Last edited by Lucky13; 09-21-2007 at 06:18 PM. | |
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09-21-2007, 06:15 PM
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__________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!" | |
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09-21-2007, 06:33 PM
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| I just saw this film for the first time. Now, I'm old enough to remember reading about it right after the war. I remember seeing the "news reels" at the movies, when the concentration camps were liberated. It was hard to fathom then, and it's just as hard to believe now. These nazi's are having a ball, while the Jews are being gassed just a stone's throw away. I hope they all rot in HELL !! Charles
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09-21-2007, 10:25 PM
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| Yeah, man. All of them.
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09-21-2007, 10:29 PM
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09-22-2007, 06:23 AM
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__________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" | |
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09-22-2007, 07:35 AM
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| I bet that those stories would be like listen to your own worst nightmares....
__________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!" |
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09-23-2007, 12:56 AM
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09-29-2007, 03:44 PM
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| Those guards do seem pretty heartless. But I suppose trying to be happy was their attempt to keep their sanity, to not become mindless killing machines or beasts, even though that's what they did through their actions. I'm sure they all knew what was going on, even those women who ran the radio's. But's it's nice to see Mengle can't escape his fate of being a part of that camp, the photo shows it. If somebody could find one of Hitler there.............
__________________  "His motor's conked out!" "What's the differance, they're all Nazis!" "Luke, shut up!" "Fear the hook!" "Oh.....I wanna fly." "You mean the kind that go under water and fly up the stairs?" "What you doing? Oh Nooooo!" Last edited by Soundbreaker Welch?; 09-29-2007 at 03:46 PM. |
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10-03-2007, 05:16 PM
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| There is a problem with all this: we do not yet have a complete view of evil regarding WW2. For some reason the photograph is not complete. Missing still are the views of the barbarity and brutality of the Soviet Union, including the massed plundering, murdering and deportation of millions human beings to bolshevik camps, not forgetting the artificial famines of 1932 in the Ukraine, mastered by the dear friend -or should i say "business partner"?- of both Churchill and Roosevelt, smiley Dzhugashvilli. Would the view of millions of women, children and old people slowly starved to death in cities, towns and villages across the Ukraine cause the same emotions Auschwits videos do? Also i am sure there were so many British officers and soldiers who were also having a ball during those days of May 1945 when they handed over the Cossacks to the soviets, or when they handed over Croat refugees to the hyennas of Tito. I am sure that any person, German or not, civilian or military, who would have handed over jews to Gestapo would have been certainly tried and executed. Now as for rotting in hell, it is good many of you mention this; there are so many major war criminals within the allies, that if you believe in the notion of rotting in hell, and knowing the vast majority of those allied war criminals got away with their stuff, they are surely rotting in hell shoulder to shoulder with those nazis. Talk about becoming equal... Last edited by Udet; 10-03-2007 at 05:32 PM. |
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10-03-2007, 05:47 PM
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Thats too Politically correct to me... kinda like a cross between the French and a Democrat. The photo is complete and stands on it's own as a low point in human history. Sure there were tons of other low points but dont go down the road that we need to mention other acts of cruelty in order to validate the holocoust! . | |
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10-04-2007, 01:50 PM
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| Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
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__________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" | |
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10-04-2007, 05:45 PM
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 | I'd say the main reason we don't remember Stalin in the same light as Hitler is that Stalin never bombed or tried to invade us. Whilst Stalin quietly killed his own, Hitler killed other countries in a very public manor. But I digress. The thing to remember is those who worked in death camps didn't see themselves as evil men murdering innocents. They saw Jews and Slavs as animals so they probably saw themselves as little different from abattoir workers, if anything doing the world a service by getting rid of 'lesser' people. Also, I'm no psychologist and certianly not condoning it, but humans find humour in even the most horrific of situations. If they really thought about what they were doing they'd go mad, so would find any way to escape it |
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