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07-08-2009, 09:35 AM
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| "Hitler Tree" may get the axe JASLO, Poland (Reuters) – An oak tree planted in Nazi-occupied Poland during World War Two to mark Adolf Hitler's birthday may soon face the axe if the local mayor has her way. Authorities in Jaslo in rural southeastern Poland discovered the origins of the tree when plans were lodged to fell it to make way for a traffic roundabout. "We obtained information that this is no ordinary tree but was put here to mark Adolf Hitler's birthday," said Jaslo's mayor, Maria Kurowska. "So should I try to improve our town's communications or should I allow a memorial to that criminal to remain standing? The choice is simple for me." Nazi Germany invaded Poland on September 1, 1939, triggering World War Two and beginning more than five years of occupation. Six million Poles died, including almost all of the country's three million Jewish citizens. Not everybody in this town of 38,000 shared Kurowska's view that the tree must go. "It was 1942 when the Germans brought a seedling of an oak here and planted it in the center of the town with all honors, an army orchestra and salutes," said Kazimierz Polak, who was present at the planting ceremony as a child 67 years ago. "My father told me then that it was Hitler's birthday and we found out later the seedling had come from Braunau am Inn (in Austria) where Hitler was born," Polak said. "It's a historic curiosity. What is the oak really guilty of? It's not the tree's fault that it was planted here to honor the biggest criminal and enemy of Poland."
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07-08-2009, 11:26 AM
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I'm sure routing the road a few metres to the left or right won't provide the town planners with the biggest of headaches. Couldn't they just change its name to the Memorial Tree, in honour of all the Polish fallen? What's in a name? | |
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07-08-2009, 12:39 PM
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| In my wifes hometown there is also a very large oak tree that was planted by the Nazi Party of the town to commemorate the birthday of Hitler. It is still standing. I could care less, it is a tree. It is not like it says anything dedicating. The original memorial with the dedication was removed after WW2. I can however understand how some people would want these kind of things removed.
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07-08-2009, 02:32 PM
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| Its a tree. If someone has issues about its original dedication, spritz it with some holy water and rededicate it to the Polish underground or something similarly worthy.
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07-08-2009, 07:21 PM
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| They should cut that tree down and burn its roots before nazis spring from its blossoms.
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07-08-2009, 09:47 PM
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| Accept it as the history it is. A long time has past and a country shouldn't be able to just pick and choose what history it wants to preserve.
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07-08-2009, 09:58 PM
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  | What would have happened if the city was built in his honor, would they raze it????
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07-08-2009, 10:21 PM
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| A large share of the Autobahns were built at Hitler's request...shouldn't they tear those out too? A tree is a tree, it could care less who planted it. They should instead, let it live to show that the human spirit will always overcome adversity...keep the tree as a symbol for the survivors.
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07-08-2009, 11:10 PM
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| I saw a documentary on the buildings that were built during his time in power. It surprised me how many things still existed in Germany that have direct links to him. I can't remeber the name of the documentary but I saw it less than a year or two ago. If the tree is really in the way it could possibly be moved. I am thinking about how many palm trees are moved in California as an example. Some of them are huge. Wheels
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07-09-2009, 02:07 PM
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- Nazi Party Rally Grounds in Nurnberg - Luitpold Arena in Nurnberg - Zeppelinfeld in Nurnberg (where Hitler gave his speaches) - Kongreßhalle in Nurnberg - A foundation stone from the Deutsche Stadion (405,000 seat stadium) in Nurnberg - SS Barracks in Nurnberg - SS Barracks near Illesheim that is shaped like the Swastika (can only be seen from the air). There is even a massive planted forest on the side of a large hill near where I live. The forest is shaped as an Iron Cross. It was planted under Hitlers orders during World War 2. I have some pictures when I flew over it one time. We used it as a check point when we were out flying. Here is a good site that you can check out: Third Reich in Ruins
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07-09-2009, 02:26 PM
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| I think it should be kept, so as to help us never forget what happened in WW2 and what this man and his followers cost the world. Maybe re-dedicate it for all those who died fighting Hitler's regime. Even something like this tree that was dedicated in Hitler's honor can be turned into something good that people can learn from.
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07-09-2009, 02:29 PM
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| Thanks for the link Chris! That is a great website. Very interesting to see the then and now pictures.
__________________ Bryon O P-61 Black Widow-Mistress of the Night! "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." George S. Patton "Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government." "Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away." |
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07-09-2009, 03:09 PM
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| Does the Simon Wiesenthal Centre know about this tree? I think they'd give their right arm to bring this tree to justice. Personally, I'd be interested to hear what it had to say for itself, under oath. That was acorny joke - see what I did there? acorn-y joke? I'm wasted on you guys... |
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07-09-2009, 03:24 PM
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| You're killin' me over here Colin, 3000 miles and that joke STILL hurt! |
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07-09-2009, 03:54 PM
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