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Old 09-09-2005, 06:24 PM   #136
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You have to be s**t me! I know they came up with crazy designs but that is just obsurd.
....And that is why I ve called this topic "rare and crazy panzer Projekts"

The teorical use of Ratte and Maus were to fill the gaps in the Atlantic Wall, serving as a self propelled heavy coast defense guns.
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:22 PM   #137
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They were still exposed to snipers, even in the T-34/85. Hand signals are slow and not always reliable due to the situation of the battle, battle mist could blind one tank from another. Hand signals are not enough.

I doubt the top armour was thicker than a battleship. The Maus was only 40mm on top.
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Old 09-10-2005, 09:24 AM   #138
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Some variants of the tema,wonder where they want to use it.
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Old 09-10-2005, 11:49 AM   #139
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Has anyone got the torque figures for those U-Boot engines, or at what rpm those power figures arrived at?
I dont have torque or rpms for those but I can give you Horse Power.

To power something of that size it probably would need the engines of the Type VII U-Boot. The Type IX was probably too big for it. The engines of the Type VII were 2800 - 3200 HP Diesel Motors made my MANN.
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Thats OK DerAdler, thanks, but I was after trque and/or rpm figures, cheers anyway.

BTW I put the weight and bhp of the Ratte in my 1/4 mile estimator and got 28 seconds!! :P
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Cool noproblems anyhow.
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"ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life"
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Anyone got anything more? Don't care whether it relates just to tanks. If someone wants to bring in a rare and crazy aircraft that is fine by me.
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A size comparative between the Panzer V and the P-1000.

The potruding barrels in this last one was 8x37mm Flak guns.

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That's powerful. Easily destroyed though, just Tallboy it
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That's powerful. Easily destroyed though, just Tallboy it
Wouldn't be that hard to hit! Looks a beast though, however where was Hitler going to find the fuel to get it to move?
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You British guys seems to have some kind of adoration for the 5,45ton Tallboy

One well aimed ( by divebombing I guess) armor piercing 1000 kg (2250 pounds) bomb and is it, no more Ratte.
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Those designs are just overkill and not worth it.
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I was wondering about the fuel for something like that, too.

Bet it would be kind of hard to get across a river, too.
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Considering the Germans had fuel problems for there Tigers and Panthers, it would have been even more of a nightmare.
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Wouldn't be that hard to hit!
I'm afraid I don't know how bombers would fare against tanks much.

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where was Hitler going to find the fuel to get it to move?
The Ratte was (U-Boot) Diesel-powered, that would help a little. Tigers/Panthers were petrol.

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Those designs are just overkill and not worth it.
True though mayybe there was some poential, if it didn't take up resources it would be OK. Bad for enemy morale.

How many crew though??

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Bet it would be kind of hard to get across a river, too.
Nah, it would very likely have fording equipment like the Maus and early Tigers.
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