Rare & Crazy Panzer Projekts. - Page 3 - Aircraft of World War II

plan_D · 07-11-2005, 04:14 PM

Nope, they weren't even 1% inside the structure of the Maus.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 07-11-2005, 05:05 PM

Damn!

mosquitoman · 07-11-2005, 05:39 PM

I don't understand the point of any of these projects, they had no practical use except as static bunkers and wasted desperately needed supplies. It must just have been a "mine's bigger than yours" philosophy. Maybe they were trying to make up for something?

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 07-11-2005, 05:42 PM

That is exactly what it was and the fact that well Germans have the habit of over engineering things.

CharlesBronson · 07-11-2005, 10:02 PM

More pics of this very crazy projekt.

plan_D · 07-12-2005, 05:51 AM

Those pot marks on the front of the Maus are from the A-19, as I've mentioned - a 122 mm cannon!

the lancaster kicks ass · 07-12-2005, 11:56 AM

does anyone else find the picture of it going cross country really funny

cheddar cheese · 07-12-2005, 01:35 PM

Not really, but thats phenomenal damage absorbence!

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 07-12-2005, 04:40 PM

Agreed! In what museum can it be found now.

mosquitoman · 07-12-2005, 05:45 PM

The thing that the German designers hadn't thought about was that it could be very easily destroyed if you used the right weapon- i.e. a tallboy

cheddar cheese · 07-12-2005, 05:48 PM

Id like to see a tank that can survive a tallboy

plan_D · 07-12-2005, 05:51 PM

You'd have some trouble hitting it with a Tallboy from a Lancaster - but why bother? You could end it with a 500 lbs bomb. The Maus is in Kubinka Tank Museum in Russia.

CharlesBronson · 07-12-2005, 11:33 PM

Well , now that I see the amount of armour of this wacky panzer I understand the litte damage done by the 122mm shells.

E-100

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 07-13-2005, 03:04 PM

I would love to go there and see it.

CharlesBronson · 07-13-2005, 10:08 PM

The Entwicklung E-50

Proposed replacement for the Panther, it used about 60% same components as the Pz V and the Schmalturm of Panther Ausf F, with his increased side armour.

Also it had a improved transmition, one of the weakest item in the Panther and other minor changes in order to ease the production.

Weight: about 50-55 tons, Engine: 750 hp.
Even the muzzle brake was deleted in the KWK 75mm L/70 to save raw materials.

07-11-2005, 04:14 PM	#31
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	Nope, they weren't even 1% inside the structure of the Maus. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

07-11-2005, 05:05 PM	#32
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	Damn! __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

07-11-2005, 05:39 PM	#33
mosquitoman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saffron Walden/Sheffield Posts: 2,991	I don't understand the point of any of these projects, they had no practical use except as static bunkers and wasted desperately needed supplies. It must just have been a "mine's bigger than yours" philosophy. Maybe they were trying to make up for something? __________________ When you realise that the light at the end of the tunnel is actually an oncoming train, you know it's time to run for your life

07-11-2005, 05:42 PM	#34
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	That is exactly what it was and the fact that well Germans have the habit of over engineering things. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

07-11-2005, 10:02 PM	#35
CharlesBronson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cordoba - Argentina Posts: 2,999	More pics of this very crazy projekt. __________________ Bronsons´s videos Last edited by CharlesBronson; 04-23-2007 at 11:41 AM.

07-12-2005, 11:56 AM	#37
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	does anyone else find the picture of it going cross country really funny __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

07-12-2005, 01:35 PM	#38
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	Not really, but thats phenomenal damage absorbence!

07-12-2005, 04:40 PM	#39
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	Agreed! In what museum can it be found now. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

07-12-2005, 05:45 PM	#40
mosquitoman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saffron Walden/Sheffield Posts: 2,991	The thing that the German designers hadn't thought about was that it could be very easily destroyed if you used the right weapon- i.e. a tallboy __________________ When you realise that the light at the end of the tunnel is actually an oncoming train, you know it's time to run for your life

07-12-2005, 05:48 PM	#41
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	Id like to see a tank that can survive a tallboy

07-12-2005, 05:51 PM	#42
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	You'd have some trouble hitting it with a Tallboy from a Lancaster - but why bother? You could end it with a 500 lbs bomb. The Maus is in Kubinka Tank Museum in Russia. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

07-12-2005, 11:33 PM	#43
CharlesBronson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cordoba - Argentina Posts: 2,999	Well , now that I see the amount of armour of this wacky panzer I understand the litte damage done by the 122mm shells. E-100 __________________ Bronsons´s videos

07-13-2005, 03:04 PM	#44
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	I would love to go there and see it. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

07-13-2005, 10:08 PM	#45
CharlesBronson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cordoba - Argentina Posts: 2,999	E-50 The Entwicklung E-50 Proposed replacement for the Panther, it used about 60% same components as the Pz V and the Schmalturm of Panther Ausf F, with his increased side armour. Also it had a improved transmition, one of the weakest item in the Panther and other minor changes in order to ease the production. Weight: about 50-55 tons, Engine: 750 hp. Even the muzzle brake was deleted in the KWK 75mm L/70 to save raw materials. __________________ Bronsons´s videos

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