 | Sturmgeschütze| WW2 General Discuss Sturmgeschütze in the World War II - General forums; this might go under the self-propelled gun thread but maybe not.
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01-19-2006, 08:29 PM
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#1 | | the old Sage
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this might go under the self-propelled gun thread but maybe not.
What do you guys interested in armor battles think of the machine and it's operations during the war ? especially Ost front activities. It seemed to fill the ranks of the Brigaden quite admirably filling when there was an obvious shortage of German armor ~ Panthers and Pz IV's
what say yee ?
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01-20-2006, 10:01 AM
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#2 | | the old Sage
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ok here is an interesting Brigade wappen : 667th Stug Brig. many Ritterkreuz winners | |
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01-20-2006, 10:50 AM
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#3 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Im not familiar with this subject erich, so maybe some pics and background info???
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01-20-2006, 12:31 PM
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#4 | | the old Sage
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Country: | a sampling. late Stugs on the train line in movement on the Ost front. from the Baron Aufsess collection | |
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01-20-2006, 12:33 PM
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#5 | | the old Sage
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Country: | during the summer of 44 many of the Heer Armor regiments and later the W-SS regiments did not have enough Pz. IV's allocated so Stug. G's came in providing the necessary firepower for both advnace and defence purposes.
one soldier doing his duty killed in August of 44 on the Ost front | |
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01-20-2006, 02:39 PM
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#6 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | IMO good for defense but not for assault, domn't know if that's in any way true though
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01-20-2006, 07:35 PM
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#7 | | Senior Member
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Also I recall a man who expertise is German AFVs saying soviet tankers, already hastily trained and many times manning T-34s without gunsights, feared the sturmgeschutz.
The machine became a very efficient T-34 killer; also its low profile made it a difficult target.
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01-20-2006, 09:35 PM
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#8 | | the old Sage
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there are probably more Heer Ritterkreuz's given out to the Stug Abt/Brigaden then any other WW 2 German armored force in the war.
over 10,000 kills recorded in these seperate units and in the Heer stug abt. and W-SS abt plus the formation of other Abt. of armored regiments when the usual Pz. IV abt. was not there. Effective as a defence weapon without doubt...........an incredible low to the ground tank killer | |
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01-21-2006, 09:35 AM
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| The StuG, a great little tank destroyer with a very powerful punch. (Especially in 42-43)
The StuG basically saved the Germans from being overrun by the masses of T-34's in early 42, litterally slaughtering the Russian juggernauts. The StuG proved quite effective on the offensive as-well.
I remember reading of an incident in sept. 42 where a StuG III commander "Kurt Pfreundtner", knocked out 9 T-34's in 20 min ! 
The Sturmgeschutz units also held an enormous record of tank kills, some 20,000 enemy tanks by spring of 44. This should be proof enough of its effectiveness.
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01-22-2006, 04:52 PM
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#10 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Erich during the summer of 44 many of the Heer Armor regiments and later the W-SS regiments did not have enough Pz. IV's allocated so Stug. G's came in providing the necessary firepower for both advnace and defence purposes.
one soldier doing his duty killed in August of 44 on the Ost front | Interesting I like the notice as well.
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01-22-2006, 05:17 PM
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#11 | | the old Sage
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01-25-2006, 09:55 AM
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#12 | | the old Sage
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Country: | friend of a friend. Walter Kühn who received his RK in 3./Panzerjäger 1 with his Pak 40 7.5cm and also with the Panzerfaust: note his right arm. He later scored kills while commanding a Stug III G in Ost Preussia | |
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01-25-2006, 10:07 AM
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#13 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | He looks very young in that photo (Walter)
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01-25-2006, 10:31 AM
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#14 | | the old Sage
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Country: | unpublished pic of Walter and his Stug III on the Ost front after his receiving of the Ritterkreuz | |
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01-25-2006, 10:33 AM
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#15 | | the old Sage
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Country: | another unknown giving his life for duty on the Ost Front | |
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