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06-14-2007, 12:21 PM
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Which one would you say was the toughest on men and material?
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06-14-2007, 12:33 PM
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#2 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country:  | ETO - Russian Front hands down...
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06-14-2007, 01:22 PM
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Country:  | Agreed. The extreme temperatures -hot and cold- just ravaged anything they touched. A close second in my books is the PTO, because you had monsoons, hurricanes etc as well as extreme heat and nasty jungle diseases. | |
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06-14-2007, 03:42 PM
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Country:  | Agreed with FBJ. Russian Front of the ETO for reasons that I stated in another thread just like this one.
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06-14-2007, 04:02 PM
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| CBI, because of the climatic effects on the men and material, its being then end of a very long logistics tail, and it not being in the public eye.
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06-14-2007, 04:10 PM
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Country: | aleutians I'm thinking, you including that in Pacific? | |
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06-14-2007, 05:58 PM
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Country: | CBI, read John Masters' "Road Past Mandalay" He was one of the Chindits. My father in law was Chief of Surgery for the US army in CBI and he said the diseases over there were horrendous not to mention the climatic conditions. Had a friend that flew in that theatre and he said they were forced down and in two days they were all anemic from the leeches feeding on them. | |
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06-14-2007, 07:08 PM
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Country: | Still prefer that weather to -20 no trees to stop the wind as it comes over the steppes. On a side note I've been trying to find out what the temp was in the Battle of the Bulge and from what i can see it wasn't at all that cold like the Eastern front or the Choisin Resovoir
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06-14-2007, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pbfoot  Still prefer that weather to -20 no trees to stop the wind as it comes over the steppes. On a side note I've been trying to find out what the temp was in the Battle of the Bulge and from what i can see it wasn't at all that cold like the Eastern front or the Choisin Resovoir | It WAS cold, but they weren't there for 3 winters, nor was it quite as cold.
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06-14-2007, 08:29 PM
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Country: | Yes and the weather in Russia was cold but that was only part of the year. The weather in the CBI was bad all the time and the diseases were omnipresent. | |
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06-14-2007, 08:33 PM
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| More than one allied or Japanese soldier broke down mentally from the heat, humidity, mud, insects and above all.... the rain!
Sometimes in the monsoon season (and especially in the mountains of the SW Pacific), it could rain continually for days......constant rain, never ending.....
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06-14-2007, 08:52 PM
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#12 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Folks I could tell you first hand. I worked on aircraft in the extreme heat and humidity - Okinawa, Thailand (2 times once during the rainy season), Mojave Airport (the 2nd hottest place on earth) and Bermuda Dunes (The hottest place on earth) Botswana (I was there in the "winter, it was pretty mild) and in the bitter cold (here in Colorado, PEI, Winnipeg and in the Sierra Nevadas) and although my stints were relatively short and I was in a civilian peacetime atmosphere, the cold by far is the worse to work on aircraft in, especially if you're trouble shooting something that requires you to be outside next to the aircraft while its turning.
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06-14-2007, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ Folks I could tell you first hand. I worked on aircraft in the extreme heat and humidity - Okinawa, Thailand (2 times once during the rainy season), Mojave Airport (the 2nd hottest place on earth) and Bermuda Dunes (The hottest place on earth) Botswana (I was there in the "winter, it was pretty mild) and in the bitter cold (here in Colorado, PEI, Winnipeg and in the Sierra Nevadas) and although my stints were relatively short and I was in a civilian peacetime atmosphere, the cold by far is the worse to work on aircraft in, especially if you're trouble shooting something that requires you to be outside next to the aircraft while its turning. | The cold could be brutal.... but its nothing compared to being tormented by hordes of disease carrying insects, and parasites in your gut.
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06-15-2007, 06:12 AM
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#14 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Originally Posted by syscom3 The cold could be brutal.... but its nothing compared to being tormented by hordes of disease carrying insects, and parasites in your gut. | I think I'd take malaria over frostbite...
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06-15-2007, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ I think I'd take malaria over frostbite... | I would to (and I have had malaria)...
The Eastern Front for me as well the combination of the hot summer and cold winters (as well as the mud in the spring thaw) just combines to make it the worst for me.
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