U-Boats in the Pacific - Aircraft of World War II

Wildcat · 10-13-2008, 09:31 PM

Can anyone tell me what U-boats operated in the Pacific in WWII. I recently read that an RAAF Beaufort attacked a submarine with a swastika painted on its conning tower in Saint George's Channel which is between New Britain and New Ireland. Although only scoring near misses with its bombs, it was claimed damaged due to the fact it didn't submerge which enabled several strafing runs to be made silencing it deck guns.
Was this a U-boat or did the crew simply mis-identify a Japanese symbol to be a German swastika?

Wildcat · 10-13-2008, 09:33 PM

Sorry, forgot to add the attack took place on the 18th of October 1943.

GrauGeist · 10-13-2008, 09:51 PM

Wildcat, I think the only U-Boat that ever "officially" operated in Pacific waters was the U-862, but that was in late '44 and was pretty much a one-time deal.

I can double-check that, but I'm pretty sure. I do know that it was part of the Indian Ocean (Monsun) operations, based out of Penang/Jakarta in concert with the Imperial Japanese Navy.

Erich · 10-13-2008, 11:23 PM

check the uboat.net site out

Njaco · 10-14-2008, 06:12 PM

Wildcat, check this site ...

18 October 1943

its day by day but I don't see any U-Boat in the Pacific. The U-Boats that are mentioned have links to U-Boat.net with more info.

comiso90 · 10-14-2008, 06:35 PM

There was definitely UBoat action in the pacific during WW1.....

Njaco · 10-14-2008, 11:21 PM

Sorry, Cosimo, I meant for that day.

GrauGeist · 10-14-2008, 11:47 PM

Here's a link to U-862 uboat.net - Boats - U-862 at uboat.net and gives some basic info.

A better link would be German U-Boat attacks off the Australian Coast, and has a great timeline of U-862's Ops.

Two notable events, one was that U-862 was attacked by a British Catalina on 20 August 1944, it being shot down by the submarine in the process and the other is that it wreaked havoc in Australian waters during the winter of 1944/1945.

Otherwise, I couldn't seem to find anything closer to the info you were looking for, Wildcat...sorry

comiso90 · 10-14-2008, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Njaco

Sorry, Cosimo, I meant for that day.

Gottcha NJ.. I was tossing in a bit of a non-sequetir by bringing up WW1.

Wildcat · 10-15-2008, 12:12 AM

Appreciate the help guys. GrauGeist, I was aware of U-862 but wasn't sure if there were other U-boats kicking around Australia/the Pacific at this time. It seems it was simply a case of mistaken identity.
Again thanks for the help.

Njaco · 10-15-2008, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Gottcha NJ.. I was tossing in a bit of a non-sequetir by bringing up WW1.

Don't you dare toss $20 words at me! It causes me to go on a Burger King binge!

Erich · 10-15-2008, 10:35 AM

hey guys there were at least 6 U-booten in the Pacific, a couple of things to mention and of importance.

shipping agents right and left-military hierarchy for the Germans as well as the Japanese.

shipping of precious commodities hardware and soft-goods to Japan - A/C parts, new designs, etc.

U-boot Milch Cows to aid other U-boots on long journeys with necessary fuel and food/arms...... one of the biggest and longest journeys of these U-boots was to supply the Auxillary Cruisers that were sailing and sinking Allied shipping in the Pacific in the early 1940's

JoeB · 10-15-2008, 11:41 AM

German subs operated a good deal in the Indian Ocean, and reached and operated from Malaya (Penang) and ports in Dutch East Indies. U-862 definitely operated technically in the Pacific, going east of the east coast of Australia to near NZ. For some other operations by U-boats, it depends where exactly you draw the boundary between Indian and Pacific.

Three U-boats were sunk in the Java Sea: U-168 by the Dutch sub Zwaardfisch Oct 1944, U-537 by USS Bashaw in Nov 1944 and U-183 by USS Besugo in April 1945. On some maps the Java Sea is part of the Indian Ocean. Others consider the boundary to be the main Indonesian islands themselves, so Java Sea, to the north of the islands, is part of the Pacific.

German cruisers and merchant raiders operated in the broad Pacific in WWI, and some in WWII (the merchant raider Michel was sunk by USS Tarpon near Japan in Oct 1943 on a dual raiding/blockade running cargo mission). No U-boats operated there in WWI though. Only a relative few even went far into the Atlantic in that war, a few off US east coast for example. The great majority of U-boat combat ops in WWI were North Sea, Channel, Irish Sea, Western Approachs ie. pretty near the British Isles, or in the Med. or on the way there.

Joe

Watanbe · 10-25-2008, 08:24 AM

Did the U-Boats operate from Japanese held ports in the Pacific, or were they only on specific missions? What I mean is, were they based in the Pacific or merely on specific missions to japan?

Messy1 · 10-27-2008, 03:41 PM

Any listings of U-boats delivering secret weapons or information to the IJN? Maybe I read something, or saw something in a movie, but something comes to mind of German U-boats delivering weapons or secret info pertaining to a A-bomb, or jet info to Japan? Any truth to this?

10-13-2008, 09:31 PM	#1
Wildcat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Queensland Posts: 4,765	U-Boats in the Pacific Can anyone tell me what U-boats operated in the Pacific in WWII. I recently read that an RAAF Beaufort attacked a submarine with a swastika painted on its conning tower in Saint George's Channel which is between New Britain and New Ireland. Although only scoring near misses with its bombs, it was claimed damaged due to the fact it didn't submerge which enabled several strafing runs to be made silencing it deck guns. Was this a U-boat or did the crew simply mis-identify a Japanese symbol to be a German swastika? __________________

10-13-2008, 09:33 PM	#2
Wildcat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Queensland Posts: 4,765	Sorry, forgot to add the attack took place on the 18th of October 1943. __________________

10-13-2008, 09:51 PM	#3
GrauGeist Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Redding, California Posts: 3,988	Wildcat, I think the only U-Boat that ever "officially" operated in Pacific waters was the U-862, but that was in late '44 and was pretty much a one-time deal. I can double-check that, but I'm pretty sure. I do know that it was part of the Indian Ocean (Monsun) operations, based out of Penang/Jakarta in concert with the Imperial Japanese Navy. __________________ "Look back over the past, with its changing empires that rose and fell, and you can foresee the future." - Marcus Aurelius, Emperor of Rome > I Support Doug Gillis <

10-14-2008, 06:12 PM	#5
Njaco The Pop-Tart Whisperer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South Jersey, United States Posts: 11,833	Wildcat, check this site ... 18 October 1943 its day by day but I don't see any U-Boat in the Pacific. The U-Boats that are mentioned have links to U-Boat.net with more info. __________________ "If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it's English, thank a soldier!" http://www.njcacoa.org/

10-14-2008, 06:35 PM	#6
comiso90 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: FL Posts: 3,529	There was definitely UBoat action in the pacific during WW1..... __________________ http://www.BOOKSonWAR.com/ .

10-13-2008, 11:23 PM	#4
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 11,111	check the uboat.net site out

10-14-2008, 11:21 PM	#7
Njaco The Pop-Tart Whisperer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South Jersey, United States Posts: 11,833	Sorry, Cosimo, I meant for that day. __________________ "If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it's English, thank a soldier!" http://www.njcacoa.org/

10-14-2008, 11:47 PM	#8
GrauGeist Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Redding, California Posts: 3,988	Here's a link to U-862 uboat.net - Boats - U-862 at uboat.net and gives some basic info. A better link would be German U-Boat attacks off the Australian Coast, and has a great timeline of U-862's Ops. Two notable events, one was that U-862 was attacked by a British Catalina on 20 August 1944, it being shot down by the submarine in the process and the other is that it wreaked havoc in Australian waters during the winter of 1944/1945. Otherwise, I couldn't seem to find anything closer to the info you were looking for, Wildcat...sorry __________________ "Look back over the past, with its changing empires that rose and fell, and you can foresee the future." - Marcus Aurelius, Emperor of Rome > I Support Doug Gillis <

10-15-2008, 12:12 AM	#10
Wildcat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Queensland Posts: 4,765	Appreciate the help guys. GrauGeist, I was aware of U-862 but wasn't sure if there were other U-boats kicking around Australia/the Pacific at this time. It seems it was simply a case of mistaken identity. Again thanks for the help. __________________

10-15-2008, 10:35 AM	#12
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 11,111	hey guys there were at least 6 U-booten in the Pacific, a couple of things to mention and of importance. shipping agents right and left-military hierarchy for the Germans as well as the Japanese. shipping of precious commodities hardware and soft-goods to Japan - A/C parts, new designs, etc. U-boot Milch Cows to aid other U-boots on long journeys with necessary fuel and food/arms...... one of the biggest and longest journeys of these U-boots was to supply the Auxillary Cruisers that were sailing and sinking Allied shipping in the Pacific in the early 1940's

10-15-2008, 11:41 AM	#13
JoeB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 559	German subs operated a good deal in the Indian Ocean, and reached and operated from Malaya (Penang) and ports in Dutch East Indies. U-862 definitely operated technically in the Pacific, going east of the east coast of Australia to near NZ. For some other operations by U-boats, it depends where exactly you draw the boundary between Indian and Pacific. Three U-boats were sunk in the Java Sea: U-168 by the Dutch sub Zwaardfisch Oct 1944, U-537 by USS Bashaw in Nov 1944 and U-183 by USS Besugo in April 1945. On some maps the Java Sea is part of the Indian Ocean. Others consider the boundary to be the main Indonesian islands themselves, so Java Sea, to the north of the islands, is part of the Pacific. German cruisers and merchant raiders operated in the broad Pacific in WWI, and some in WWII (the merchant raider Michel was sunk by USS Tarpon near Japan in Oct 1943 on a dual raiding/blockade running cargo mission). No U-boats operated there in WWI though. Only a relative few even went far into the Atlantic in that war, a few off US east coast for example. The great majority of U-boat combat ops in WWI were North Sea, Channel, Irish Sea, Western Approachs ie. pretty near the British Isles, or in the Med. or on the way there. Joe

10-25-2008, 08:24 AM	#14
Watanbe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Adelaide Posts: 522	Did the U-Boats operate from Japanese held ports in the Pacific, or were they only on specific missions? What I mean is, were they based in the Pacific or merely on specific missions to japan? __________________

10-27-2008, 03:41 PM	#15
Messy1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ankeny, Iowa Posts: 1,678	Any listings of U-boats delivering secret weapons or information to the IJN? Maybe I read something, or saw something in a movie, but something comes to mind of German U-boats delivering weapons or secret info pertaining to a A-bomb, or jet info to Japan? Any truth to this? __________________ "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." George S. Patton "When you are at the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on!" Franklin Roosevelt

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