USS Yorktown CV-5 and others.... - Aircraft of World War II

Lucky13 · 08-05-2009, 09:14 AM

Which other WWII carriers etc. resting places, has been found? To which of these are you allowed or can dive down to?

diddyriddick · 08-05-2009, 12:16 PM

I'm not aware of any that are shallow enough for recreational divers.

Condora · 08-05-2009, 12:45 PM

The Graf Zeppelin was found in the Baltic, but she is a bit deep, at 80 meters...

The Saratoga is in the Bikini Atoll, at just 27 meters...

Other than these two, I only have heard of the Oriskany.

ToughOmbre · 08-05-2009, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky13

Which other WWII carriers etc. resting places, has been found? To which of these are you allowed or can dive down to?

Robert Ballard, of RMS Titanic fame, found CV-5 on 19 May 1998. The wreck, 3 miles beneath the surface (a mile deeper than Titanic), was surprisingly intact after having been on the sea bottom since 1942—much paint and equipment were still visible. Certainly can't dive down to it though.

Check this out Lucky....

Midway @ nationalgeographic.com

TO

Messy1 · 08-05-2009, 03:45 PM

Great stuff TO!

ToughOmbre · 08-05-2009, 04:16 PM

Thanks Messy!

TO

diddyriddick · 08-05-2009, 04:24 PM

On that same expedition, he went looking for the Kaga, and failed to find it. Has anybody found that yet?

Messy1 · 08-05-2009, 04:29 PM

Diddy, this is from Wiki;

"In 1999, the Nauticos company discovered wreckage that has been identified as coming from Kaga."

It doesn't go into anymore detail than that , I am afraid. I guess they found wreckage, but not the ship? Not sure if it has been found since this article was posted or not.

Messy1 · 08-05-2009, 04:35 PM

And here is a little more detailed info on the wreckage found from the website link below;

Japanese Aircraft Carrier Identified!

The wreckage discovered consists of two gun tubs and a section of the upper hanger deck, located on the starboard aft machine-gun gallery of Kaga (see image below). The artifact is resting upside down in 17,000 feet of water. Also visible on the wreckage are the walkways connecting the gun tubs, an observation platform, and a landing light array (used to help guide pilots to a safe landing aboard the carrier). Follow-up analysis to determine the timing and cause of the artifact's origin is underway. It is hoped that the main hull of Kaga can be located at some time in the future.

diddyriddick · 08-05-2009, 05:50 PM

Cool. Thanks! I must say, however, that that is a very awkward design. Looks like a converted Battlecruiser...Oh, wait, never mind!

RabidAlien · 08-05-2009, 11:38 PM

Amazing find!

To those who served on her,

To those who searched, that she may never be forgotten,

Pong · 08-06-2009, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToughOmbre

Robert Ballard, of RMS Titanic fame, found CV-5 on 19 May 1998. The wreck, 3 miles beneath the surface (a mile deeper than Titanic), was surprisingly intact after having been on the sea bottom since 1942—much paint and equipment were still visible. Certainly can't dive down to it though.

Check this out Lucky....

Midway @ nationalgeographic.com

TO

Ballard also found the Bismark, I remember a documentary also by National Geographic on that expedition.

BTW, great find Messy, I been wondering what happened to the search for the Kaga.

RabidAlien · 08-06-2009, 08:52 AM

NatGeo had one recently on how he found the Titanic, and worked a deal with the Navy to use some of their equipment for the Titanic search, he only had to find and investigate the Thresher and Scorpion subs to do it. He had some AMAZING footage of all three!

Messy1 · 08-06-2009, 11:51 AM

thanks Pong, I wish I had more time to research and read about these wrecks, but only have computer access at work and I know they would not be happy if I spent even more time on here rather than working!

Messy1 · 08-06-2009, 12:02 PM

I bet working with Ballard to find the ships he has found so far would be a exciting experience, although highly frustarting until they found the ships. I think they spent months searching for Titanic.

08-05-2009, 09:14 AM	#1
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,144	USS Yorktown CV-5 and others.... Which other WWII carriers etc. resting places, has been found? To which of these are you allowed or can dive down to? __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

08-05-2009, 03:45 PM	#5
Messy1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ankeny, Iowa Posts: 1,411	Great stuff TO! __________________ Bryon O P-61 Black Widow-Mistress of the Night! "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." George S. Patton "Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government." "Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away."

08-05-2009, 04:16 PM	#6
ToughOmbre Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 3,233	Thanks Messy! TO __________________ *“Let's get Enterprise* and Hornet turned into the wind."**

08-05-2009, 04:29 PM	#8
Messy1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ankeny, Iowa Posts: 1,411	Diddy, this is from Wiki; "In 1999, the Nauticos company discovered wreckage that has been identified as coming from Kaga." It doesn't go into anymore detail than that , I am afraid. I guess they found wreckage, but not the ship? Not sure if it has been found since this article was posted or not. __________________ Bryon O P-61 Black Widow-Mistress of the Night! "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." George S. Patton "Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government." "Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away."

08-05-2009, 04:35 PM	#9
Messy1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ankeny, Iowa Posts: 1,411	And here is a little more detailed info on the wreckage found from the website link below; Japanese Aircraft Carrier Identified! The wreckage discovered consists of two gun tubs and a section of the upper hanger deck, located on the starboard aft machine-gun gallery of Kaga (see image below). The artifact is resting upside down in 17,000 feet of water. Also visible on the wreckage are the walkways connecting the gun tubs, an observation platform, and a landing light array (used to help guide pilots to a safe landing aboard the carrier). Follow-up analysis to determine the timing and cause of the artifact's origin is underway. It is hoped that the main hull of Kaga can be located at some time in the future. __________________ Bryon O P-61 Black Widow-Mistress of the Night! "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." George S. Patton "Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government." "Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away."

08-05-2009, 12:16 PM	#2
diddyriddick Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hamlet, NC, US Posts: 723	I'm not aware of any that are shallow enough for recreational divers.

08-05-2009, 12:45 PM	#3
Condora Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Europe, currently Portugal Posts: 205	The Graf Zeppelin was found in the Baltic, but she is a bit deep, at 80 meters... The Saratoga is in the Bikini Atoll, at just 27 meters... Other than these two, I only have heard of the Oriskany.

08-05-2009, 04:24 PM	#7
diddyriddick Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hamlet, NC, US Posts: 723	On that same expedition, he went looking for the Kaga, and failed to find it. Has anybody found that yet?

08-05-2009, 05:50 PM	#10
diddyriddick Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hamlet, NC, US Posts: 723	Cool. Thanks! I must say, however, that that is a very awkward design. Looks like a converted Battlecruiser...Oh, wait, never mind!

08-05-2009, 11:38 PM	#11
RabidAlien Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hurst, Texas Posts: 2,825	Amazing find! To those who served on her, To those who searched, that she may never be forgotten, __________________ Pillage, then burn. Argue not with dragons, for thou art crunchy and go well on toast.

08-06-2009, 08:52 AM	#13
RabidAlien Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hurst, Texas Posts: 2,825	NatGeo had one recently on how he found the Titanic, and worked a deal with the Navy to use some of their equipment for the Titanic search, he only had to find and investigate the Thresher and Scorpion subs to do it. He had some AMAZING footage of all three! __________________ Pillage, then burn. Argue not with dragons, for thou art crunchy and go well on toast.

08-06-2009, 11:51 AM	#14
Messy1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ankeny, Iowa Posts: 1,411	thanks Pong, I wish I had more time to research and read about these wrecks, but only have computer access at work and I know they would not be happy if I spent even more time on here rather than working! __________________ Bryon O P-61 Black Widow-Mistress of the Night! "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." George S. Patton "Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government." "Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away."

08-06-2009, 12:02 PM	#15
Messy1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ankeny, Iowa Posts: 1,411	I bet working with Ballard to find the ships he has found so far would be a exciting experience, although highly frustarting until they found the ships. I think they spent months searching for Titanic. __________________ Bryon O P-61 Black Widow-Mistress of the Night! "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." George S. Patton "Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government." "Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away."

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