Ways to sink a Cruiser

[mosquitoman]

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[trackend]

thank's for that, pretty obvious really . what a plonker I turned out to be.

[mosquitoman]

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[lesofprimus]

Thats not a signature.. Its just a pic he constantly posts.....

[trackend]

Ill have to have butchers at the FAQs

[lesofprimus]

Yours has the picture title and description : tag that pops up when u post a picture, like this......

Notice the difference between the 2????

[Erich]

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[trackend]

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[lesofprimus]

A Tallboy took out that Viaduct......

[Le Batistador]

Oy Trackend, mate...


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The simple answer to ways to sink a cruiser is: The same as any other ship, you let the water in. So the question then is what's the best way to do that? Well, in the USN the phrase is, when disposing of enemy ships: "It is better to poke holes that let water in than to poke holes that let air in."

Here are lists of 19 heavy cruisers and 22 light cruisers lost by the Japanese during World War II.

As far as CAs are concerned, the big killers were USN carrier aircraft (58%). An additional 16% were sunk by some combination of naval gunfire and carrier aircraft. 21% were lost to submarines and the remaining 5% (one ship) went to naval gunfire alone.

Cruisers: Format = Ship Name; date sunk; source of loss; approx. location
MIKUMA; 6/6/1942; Carrier Air; Midway
KINUGASA; 11/14/1942; Carrier Air; off Savo Is., Solomons
CHOKAI; 10/25/1944; Carrier Air; E Samar, PI
SUZUYA; 10/25/1944; Carrier Air; E Samar, PI
NACHI; 11/5/1944; Carrier Air; Manila Bay. PI
KUMANO; 11/25/1944; Carrier Air; W Luzon, PI
KASUGA (OLD HEAVY CRUISER); 7/18/1945; Carrier Air; Kure NB
TONE; 7/24/1945; Carrier Air; Kure NB
AOBA; 7/28/1945; Carrier Air; Kure NB
IWATE (OLD HEAVY CRUISER); 7/28/1945; Carrier Air; Kure NB
IZUMO (OLD HEAVY CRUISER); 7/28/1945; Carrier Air; Kure NB
CHIKUMA; 10/25/1944; Carrier Air, Naval Gunfire; E Samar, PI
HAGURO; 5/16/1945; Carrier Air, Naval Gunfire; off Penang, Borneo
FURUTAKA; 10/11/1942; Naval Gunfire; off Savo Is., Solomons
MOGAMI; 10/25/1944; Naval Gunfire, Carrier Air; Mindinao Sea, PI
KAKO; 8/10/1942; Submarine Attack; off New Ireland, Solomons
ATAGO; 10/23/1944; Submarine Attack; off Palawan, PI
MAYA; 10/23/1944; Submarine Attack; off Palawan, PI
ASHIGARA; 6/8/1945; Submarine Attack-RN; SE Singapore

Of the CL’s, 9 (41%) were lost to carrier aircraft, and a like number were lost to submarines. Of the remaining, two were lost due the naval gunfire (9%) , 1 to a combination of naval gunfire and carrier air ( 4.5%) and 1 to a combination of naval gunfire and land-based air.

Light Cruisers: Format = Ship Name; date sunk; source of loss; approx. location
YURA; 10/25/1942; Carrier Air; Santa Isabel, Solomons
TENRYU; 12/18/1942; Carrier Air; Bismark Sea
NAKA; 2/17/1944; Carrier Air; SW Truk
KINU; 10/26/1944; Carrier Air; SW Masbate, PI
NOSHIRO; 10/26/1944; Carrier Air; NW Panay, PI
KISO; 11/13/1944; Carrier Air; Manila Bay. PI
KASHII; 1/12/1945; Carrier Air; South China Sea
YAHAGI; 4/7/1945; Carrier Air; off Kyushu
OYODO; 7/28/1945; Carrier Air; Kure NB
KATORI; 2/17/1944; Carrier Air, Naval Gunfire; Truk
JINTSU; 7/13/1943; Naval Gunfire; N Kolombangara, Solomons
SENDAI; 11/2/1943; Naval Gunfire; Off Bougainville, Solomons
ABUKUMA; 10/26/1944; Naval Gunfire, Land Air; off Negros, PI
KUMA; 1/11/1944; Submarine Attack; off Penang, Borneo
AGANO; 2/16/1944; Submarine Attack; N Truk
TATSUTA; 3/13/1944; Submarine Attack; S Yokohoma
YUBARI; 4/27/1944; Submarine Attack; S PaLand Airu
OI; 7/19/1944; Submarine Attack; South China Sea
NAGARA; 8/7/1944; Submarine Attack; W Kyushu
NATORI; 8/18/1944; Submarine Attack; E Samar, PI
TAMA; 10/25/1944; Submarine Attack; NE Luzon, PI
ISUZU; 4/7/1945; Submarine Attack; N Soembawa, NEI

Overall, the biggest killer, at 49%, of Japanese cruisers, heavy and light, was carrier aircraft (58% if you count the ones with carrier air and naval gunfire together) followed by submarines (32%). Addmittedly I haven't gone back to look up each of these losses, but at a quick glance I'd venture that the majority of those sunk by carrier air were sunk using bombs instead of torpedoes. Seems like that was enough to :let the water in".

Regards,

Rich

[lesofprimus]

Great Info Rich.. You should join up and become a member and share some of that OTHER info u got....

[trackend]

here! here! quite right Les go for it Rich
By the way thanks LB these PC things confuse old sods like me.

[Andrew]

One of the most stuipid ways to sink a Cruiser, is a Cruiser that tries to Sink itself.

On the 13th May 1942 HMS Trinidad which was Escorting Convoy PQ13, and was involved in a running battle with several German Destroyers, she was repeatedly hitting the German Destroyer Z26, which was severly damaged, and subsequerntly fired a torpedo at Z26, which due to the severe weather conditions did a 180 degree turn, and hit HMS Trinidad somewhere amidships. She got to Murmansk under her own steam where she spent until 15th May, the ships company repairing damage to make her fit for the voyage home, with the assistance of the Russians. On the way back to Britain in convoy with 2 damaged Destroyers HMS Foresight & Forrester and the 2 Destroyers HMS Matchless & Somali , and the surviving Members of HMS Ediburgh's ships company onboard, the British Ships were set upon by a mixed bag of Junkers JU88, and Stuka Dive Bombers, these carried out attacks on HMS Trinidad for almost 2 hours, with the Cruiser manageing to dodge the bombs, but torpedo laden HE111's aproached, the Cruiser managed to avoid all the torpedo's launched at her, but while avoiding the last lot of torpedo's, she was hit by several bombs from a Junkers which came in uunoticed at mast height, the Captain was still trying to control the ship at this point, but the fires got out of hand, and he ordered abandon ship. HMS Trinidad was scuttled shortly after all the surviving ships company was evacuated, along with those from HMS Edinburgh.

[hellothere]

Id say a fun way to sink a ship would be to send a couple of guys on board to but demolition charges on the engines