What island is this? - Aircraft of World War II

syscom3 · 09-23-2006, 04:32 PM

I know where it is, do you?

Its in the Pacific.

"Uncommon valor was the norm"

Chief · 09-23-2006, 08:14 PM

Wako?

evangilder · 09-24-2006, 01:10 AM

That's Iwo Jima. It's burned into my memory from reading a lot about it and giving a presentation on it at the museum. The bloodiest battle the Marines ever fought. Here are some brief facts about Iwo Jima:

- 25,581 US casualties including 6,825 dead
- About 1/3 of Marine Corps casualties in WWII were during this 36 day battle
- About 22,000 Japanese dead
- WWII CMOH total 81 Marines and 57 Navy recipients
- Iwo Jima: 22 Marines and 5 sailors received the CMOH
- By the end of the war, 2,400 B-29s made emergency landings on Iwo Jima
Saving 27,000 crewmen!

Many commanders would pay tribute to the courage and tenacity of the Iwo Jima Marines, but Admiral Nimitz said it best:

The battle of Iwo Island has been won. The United States Marines by their individual and collective courage have conquered a base which is as necessary to us in our continuing forward movement toward final victory as it was vital to the enemy in staving off ultimate defeat. By their victory the Third, Fourth and Fifth Marine Divisions and other units of the Fifth Amphibious Corps have made an accounting to their country which only history will be able to value fully. Among the Americans who served on Iwo Island uncommon valor was a common virtue.

syscom3 · 09-24-2006, 03:01 AM

Dang it Evans.... youre too fast. I wanted some others to take a crack at it.

Good job!

the lancaster kicks ass · 09-24-2006, 07:33 AM

jeez i never realised the island was that small!

evangilder · 09-24-2006, 08:28 AM

Yep, the entire island is about 7.5 to 8 square miles. Before the battle, the Japanese had almost 16 miles of tunnels below the surface. During the batle, it was the most populated place on earth, with about 25,000 Japanese fighting about 50,000 Marines. That averages out to about 1000 men per square mile!

loomaluftwaffe · 09-25-2006, 06:11 AM

manila is more crowded

Vassili Zaitzev · 09-25-2006, 08:32 AM

Hmm, it's looks like Iwo Jima like evanglider said. It's looks like that to me because that mountain looks like Mount Surabachi.

R Pope · 09-25-2006, 09:17 AM

Yep, that's "Mount Sonofabitchi" all right. Probably the easiest island in the Pacific to ID.

evangilder · 09-25-2006, 10:00 AM

I was looking at Iwo on Google Earth today and found this detail. Anyone know what ship that is/was?

Image source: Google Earth.

Soundbreaker Welch? · 09-25-2006, 05:16 PM

Hmm....I wouldn't know. When I looked at Google earth all the Pacific islands were a blur.

But oddly enough, I can see my house on my personal google earth, but I can't see London or Washington D.C. and many other places you would think were of more importance.

Wrong settings?

Ok, on google.com you can see a lot more on the maps search. cool.

Henk · 09-25-2006, 08:19 PM

Probably a transport ship or some Jap trawler.

syscom3 · 09-26-2006, 03:23 AM

I found several other ships.

I wonder if it was a breakwater of sorts that was made.

This picture is centered just meters south of the ship in Evans picture

evangilder · 09-26-2006, 10:49 AM

And if you look a little left and below of the one I posted, it looks like it may be the bow and stern of another. It could be a breakwater, but I wonder if it might be debris from the battle.

syscom3 · 09-28-2006, 12:25 AM

Its a crappy picture, but this might be the ship that Evans saw.

It is a Japanese "lugger"

09-23-2006, 08:14 PM	#2
Chief Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 366	Wako? __________________ Corporal: "Hmm. it's quiet. too quiet." BANG! Same Corporal: "Now it's suddenly too loud. I preferred it when it was quiet."

09-24-2006, 01:10 AM	#3
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,807	That's Iwo Jima. It's burned into my memory from reading a lot about it and giving a presentation on it at the museum. The bloodiest battle the Marines ever fought. Here are some brief facts about Iwo Jima: - 25,581 US casualties including 6,825 dead - About 1/3 of Marine Corps casualties in WWII were during this 36 day battle - About 22,000 Japanese dead - WWII CMOH total 81 Marines and 57 Navy recipients - Iwo Jima: 22 Marines and 5 sailors received the CMOH - By the end of the war, 2,400 B-29s made emergency landings on Iwo Jima Saving 27,000 crewmen! Many commanders would pay tribute to the courage and tenacity of the Iwo Jima Marines, but Admiral Nimitz said it best: The battle of Iwo Island has been won. The United States Marines by their individual and collective courage have conquered a base which is as necessary to us in our continuing forward movement toward final victory as it was vital to the enemy in staving off ultimate defeat. By their victory the Third, Fourth and Fifth Marine Divisions and other units of the Fifth Amphibious Corps have made an accounting to their country which only history will be able to value fully. Among the Americans who served on Iwo Island uncommon valor was a common virtue. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

09-24-2006, 03:01 AM	#4
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,280	Dang it Evans.... youre too fast. I wanted some others to take a crack at it. Good job! __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

09-24-2006, 07:33 AM	#5
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	jeez i never realised the island was that small! __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

09-24-2006, 08:28 AM	#6
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,807	Yep, the entire island is about 7.5 to 8 square miles. Before the battle, the Japanese had almost 16 miles of tunnels below the surface. During the batle, it was the most populated place on earth, with about 25,000 Japanese fighting about 50,000 Marines. That averages out to about 1000 men per square mile! __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

09-25-2006, 06:11 AM	#7
loomaluftwaffe Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,848	manila is more crowded __________________ "The German Luftwaffe always fought without any reserves. This is also the reason why we have pilots with extremely high numbers of victories." - General der Jagdflieger Adolf Galland"

09-25-2006, 08:32 AM	#8
Vassili Zaitzev Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stafford Springs, Connecticut Posts: 2,221	Hmm, it's looks like Iwo Jima like evanglider said. It's looks like that to me because that mountain looks like Mount Surabachi.

09-25-2006, 09:17 AM	#9
R Pope Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 134	Yep, that's "Mount Sonofabitchi" all right. Probably the easiest island in the Pacific to ID. __________________ cornell

09-25-2006, 05:16 PM	#11
Soundbreaker Welch? Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 1,893	Hmm....I wouldn't know. When I looked at Google earth all the Pacific islands were a blur. But oddly enough, I can see my house on my personal google earth, but I can't see London or Washington D.C. and many other places you would think were of more importance. Wrong settings? Ok, on google.com you can see a lot more on the maps search. cool. __________________ "His motor's conked out!" "What's the differance, they're all Nazis!" "Luke, shut up!" "Fear the hook!" "Oh.....I wanna fly." "You mean the kind that go under water and fly up the stairs?" "What you doing? Oh Nooooo!" Last edited by Soundbreaker Welch?; 09-25-2006 at 08:18 PM.

09-25-2006, 08:19 PM	#12
Henk Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: George - South Africa Posts: 2,780	Probably a transport ship or some Jap trawler. __________________ The ultimate revolution in aircraft designs during WW2

09-26-2006, 10:49 AM	#14
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,807	And if you look a little left and below of the one I posted, it looks like it may be the bow and stern of another. It could be a breakwater, but I wonder if it might be debris from the battle. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

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