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06-01-2006, 09:45 AM
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Country:  | Hmmm, with all these ideas on who started WWII, wonder if it will turn into a conspiracy. From " who shot JFK" to " Who started WWII". | 
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06-01-2006, 09:58 AM
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| The liberals will always find a reason to blame the US first.
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06-02-2006, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by syscom3 The liberals will always find a reason to blame the US first. | Thats why we need to wipe 'em out (the liberals I mean), setting up extermination camps in San Francisco and Toronto will be the first step 
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06-05-2006, 06:34 AM
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06-05-2006, 11:53 AM
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| There are some men in San Fran who would enjoy being locked up in close proximity to other men,
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06-06-2006, 07:22 PM
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Country: | Oh yes, the fags, we could always de-program them into straight people and then execute them 
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Hindsight is always 20-20,
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Speak of mutually assured destruction?
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06-07-2006, 07:51 PM
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Country:  | Na, kill them, do not want to waste money on them to try to de-programe them.
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06-08-2006, 12:14 AM
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Country: | No well make the money back when we sell there livers on the black market
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Hindsight is always 20-20,
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Speak of mutually assured destruction?
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06-12-2006, 08:45 PM
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Country:  | Perhaps if the treaty of Versailles did not treat Germany the way it did, and if it punished the real instigators of the Great War (Austria-Hungary) the Germans wouldnt have felt the need to invade the world as it were to simply take back what was, in a sense, rightfully theirs.
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06-13-2006, 06:02 AM
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#100 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | While I somewhat agree with you, at the same time you are quite a bit off with that. Yes parts of Czech and Danzig were rightfully German territory. Lets see though Poland? No was not German. The Rest of Czech? No was not German. France? No was not German. Russia? No was not German. N. Afrika? No was not German. Netherlands? No was not German. Luxemburg? No was not German. Greece? No was not German. Shall I keep going?
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06-13-2006, 09:52 AM
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Country:  | Both are true but as DerAdlerIstGelandet says, most of the countries that the Germans occupied in WWII weren't German. So I'd say German started the war, but there were several reasons for Germany to start the war.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like war
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06-13-2006, 09:58 AM
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#102 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | As I said before it comes down to this. Germany started the war but there were many factors as discussed by many of us as to what could have helped lead to the war.
There is no way to church it up or give the blame to anyone else.
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06-13-2006, 06:15 PM
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Country: | Well like I said I think it was just a way to pay back the French and UK for trying to destroy the Germans after WW1 and trying to blame them for everything, but the Jew factor and the things they did to civilians was wrong. The war was just a repeat of History. Like Adler said, Danzig, the Tzar region and part of the Czech were rightfully German territory, but the war with Russia and taking over most of the EU was just Hitler trying to take over the world and his love of other peoples territory.
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06-13-2006, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet As I said before it comes down to this. Germany started the war but there were many factors as discussed by many of us as to what could have helped lead to the war.
There is no way to church it up or give the blame to anyone else. |
Ok lets make the cause simple without pointing any fingers, the actuall main causes both wars were,Militarism, Nationalism, Imperialism and International lawlessness.
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Hello me...meet the real me.
And my misfits way of life.
A dark black past is my
Most valued possession.
Hindsight is always 20-20,
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Speak of mutually assured destruction?
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06-13-2006, 11:53 PM
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Country: | WW II wouldn't have occured without Hitler and Hitler wouldn't have been able to rise to power without the Treaty of Versailles, which is why most historians consider WW I and WW II seperate episodes of the same conflict. Hitler only rose to power because of the conditions purposely created to leave Germany in a weakened state. No one forsaw the Great Depression and the social upheaval it would cause. There were a lot of links in the chain leading to WW II and only some were the direct responsibity of the German people. It doesn't excuse the actions taken by many people in the name of a Greater Germany though.
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