WWII Artillery.... - Aircraft of World War II

Lucky13 · 05-20-2007, 09:32 AM

Which was the best piece of artillery during WWII if you look at mobility, accuracy and firepower?

syscom3 · 05-20-2007, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucky13

Which was the best piece of artillery during WWII if you look at mobility, accuracy and firepower?

The US 105mm and 155 mm howitzers.

Henk · 05-20-2007, 01:33 PM

How good were the German 88's?

mkloby · 05-20-2007, 03:17 PM

I've worked with the US M2 105mm Howitzer. Good piece - after one call next round was "fire for effect." Our the firing position was about 8 clicks away from the target. I always thought the strangest thing was that you can actually see the shell flying through the air...

trackend · 05-20-2007, 03:59 PM

German 88, British 25pounder, US105

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 05-20-2007, 04:06 PM

I think it depends on what you want.

The German 88 was very versatile and good at whatever it did. It could be used as a FLAK gun (its original intended purpose) and as a anti tank gun which it was superb possibly the best of the war. It however was not an area artillery piece and could not be used in the same ways as the US 105 or 155mm.

For pure arty I would go with the US 105 and 155 as sys said.

So I say the best depending on what you want are the German 88 and the US 105mm and 155mm.

Gnomey · 05-20-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by trackend

German 88, British 25pounder, US105

Agreed.

Glider · 05-21-2007, 02:52 AM

British 25pd. It was flexible, light, reliable, had a good rate of fire and a longer range that the US or German 105.

Joe2 · 05-21-2007, 09:57 AM

Is the nerblwerfer included in this descussion?

trackend · 05-21-2007, 10:42 AM

The Nerblwerfer was too slow to reload I'd rather have a 3inch mortar.
Another heavier field piece of that was highly rated was the 5.5 inch which struck a good compromise between caliber and maneuverability
IMO I think the Long Tom was a bit too big at a little over 30,000lbs it made it limited in the terrain it could be towed over.

comiso90 · 05-21-2007, 12:22 PM

It's my understanding that the 88 was unparalleled in line of sight, flat trajectory engagements because of it’s high muzzle velocity but was not very accurate when it came to arching fire.

is that true?

The US exceled in TOT (Time on Target) fire. Several pieces in different locations would hit the target simutaniously.

What about Russian guns?... I know they had longer ranges than American guns

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 05-21-2007, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by comiso90

It's my understanding that the 88 was unparalleled in line of sight, flat trajectory engagements because of it’s high muzzle velocity but was not very accurate when it came to arching fire.

is that true?

Not sure but it would not surprise me. The 88 was built originally as a FLAK gun and served in that purpose the entire war. The other way it was effectively used was as a anti tank gun. It cut through the allied tanks like butter.

I dont believe it was ever used for regular arty.

comiso90 · 05-21-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

I dont believe it was ever used for regular arty.

A favorite tactic in forrested area was to aim at the tops of the trees and let the splinters do the damage..

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 05-21-2007, 01:07 PM

That I know of, I believe the Germans did that during the Bulge but when I mean regular arty I mean like area shelling and so forth. The gun was not built for that purpose.

Henk · 05-21-2007, 05:13 PM

I think they did use 88's in the Desert war in North Africa as arty, but not sure.

05-20-2007, 09:32 AM	#1
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05-20-2007, 03:17 PM	#4
mkloby Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 3,562	I've worked with the US M2 105mm Howitzer. Good piece - after one call next round was "fire for effect." Our the firing position was about 8 clicks away from the target. I always thought the strangest thing was that you can actually see the shell flying through the air... __________________ If the Army and the Navy ever look on heaven's scenes, they will find the streets are guarded by United States Marines

05-20-2007, 04:06 PM	#6
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 34,086	I think it depends on what you want. The German 88 was very versatile and good at whatever it did. It could be used as a FLAK gun (its original intended purpose) and as a anti tank gun which it was superb possibly the best of the war. It however was not an area artillery piece and could not be used in the same ways as the US 105 or 155mm. For pure arty I would go with the US 105 and 155 as sys said. So I say the best depending on what you want are the German 88 and the US 105mm and 155mm. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

05-21-2007, 12:22 PM	#11
comiso90 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: FL Posts: 3,530	It's my understanding that the 88 was unparalleled in line of sight, flat trajectory engagements because of it’s high muzzle velocity but was not very accurate when it came to arching fire. is that true? The US exceled in TOT (Time on Target) fire. Several pieces in different locations would hit the target simutaniously. What about Russian guns?... I know they had longer ranges than American guns __________________ http://www.BOOKSonWAR.com/ . Last edited by comiso90; 05-21-2007 at 12:25 PM.

05-20-2007, 03:59 PM	#5
trackend Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canvey Island, Essex Posts: 4,030	German 88, British 25pounder, US105

05-21-2007, 02:52 AM	#8
Glider Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 3,918	British 25pd. It was flexible, light, reliable, had a good rate of fire and a longer range that the US or German 105.

05-21-2007, 09:57 AM	#9
Joe2 Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Land of hope and Glory Posts: 295	Is the nerblwerfer included in this descussion?

05-21-2007, 10:42 AM	#10
trackend Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canvey Island, Essex Posts: 4,030	The Nerblwerfer was too slow to reload I'd rather have a 3inch mortar. Another heavier field piece of that was highly rated was the 5.5 inch which struck a good compromise between caliber and maneuverability IMO I think the Long Tom was a bit too big at a little over 30,000lbs it made it limited in the terrain it could be towed over.

05-21-2007, 01:07 PM	#14
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 34,086	That I know of, I believe the Germans did that during the Bulge but when I mean regular arty I mean like area shelling and so forth. The gun was not built for that purpose. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

05-21-2007, 05:13 PM	#15
Henk Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: George - South Africa Posts: 2,787	I think they did use 88's in the Desert war in North Africa as arty, but not sure. __________________ The ultimate revolution in aircraft designs during WW2

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