Battle axe - Aircraft of World War II

sparks · 01-31-2009, 05:15 PM

Can sombody please tell me what planes were at this battle in may of 1941, both allied and axis.We are putting a historical enent together for the 13th on Fighter ace (wich you can still get the 2 week free sign up) would love any help on this. thanks

evangilder · 01-31-2009, 06:24 PM

Operation Battle Axe occurred in June of 1941, not May. June 15-17 to be exact. You might want to read up on a battle and know the actual dates before you plan an event like that...

Operation Battleaxe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

sparks · 01-31-2009, 07:55 PM

Evanglider, i have done my homework on this but,what I schould have asked was;We know we had hurcs and wellingtons,but what did the Ge side have emils, stukas,88s.the MacchiC.200.The problem I have is we dont have all these planes available to us,so for the wellington we would like to sub in the mitchell d or the avenger,the MacchiC.200 the ki43 oscar.Also what model of hurricane was there the 1a, the 11c and I see no spits but some p40s also did GE have the early 110cs.just cant find the exact planes used in the battle.
so any help would be great ty

Njaco · 01-31-2009, 11:10 PM

Components of Fliegerfuhrer Afrika in May / June 1941:

Single-engine fighters:
7./JG 26 with 13 servicable Bf 109E-7 Trop
1./JG 27 with 25 servicable Bf 109E-7 Trop

Twin-engined fighters:
7. and 8./ZG 26 with 22 servicable Bf 110E-1

Bombers:
III./LG 1 with 11 servicable Ju 88A-4 Trop

Dive-Bombers:
I./StG 1 with 21 servicable Ju 87B-2
II./StG 2 with 27 servicable Ju 87B-2

Recon:
2(H)./14 with 13 servicable Hs 126s and Bf 110s
2(F)./123 with 2 servicable Ju 88D-5s

sparks · 02-01-2009, 01:24 AM

thank you sir

GrauGeist · 02-01-2009, 02:32 AM

The Italians had the Fiat CR32 and Fiat CR42 for fighters, Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 & Savoia-Marchetti SM.81 for bombers.

The Allied (RAF, SAAF, RAAF) aircraft were:
Fighters:
Gloster Gladiator
Curtiss P-40 Tomahawk or Kittyhawk
Hurricane Mk II

Bombers:
Douglas Boston
Bristol Bombay
Bristol Blenheim
Vickers Wellington
Vickers Valentia

Njaco · 02-01-2009, 12:59 PM

Those numbers are servicable. There were others on hand, but those are th ones that were flying.

Grau, I also read that there were some M. 202s available?

GrauGeist · 02-01-2009, 01:13 PM

Not from what I've read, NJ...the Folgore was delivered to North Africa in mid-1941, so it would have missed Battle Axe but did see alot of action on other fronts from late '41 onwards.

It was definately a premier fighter, too...sadly under-armed, but could hang in there with the best the Allies had to offer, performance-wise.

sparks · 02-01-2009, 05:46 PM

do we know what model of hurricanes were sent? thanks for all the help,once we have all the details in order i will post them .thanks Sparks

Sorry just read that it was the mark 11

wangfei · 02-04-2009, 11:33 PM

Now that is a lot of brass air fittings mod edit: link removed there is just about every type
of air fitting that you could want. Wholesale prices too. I guess these could be used as small water pipe fitting also. I
used some of the parts to make my babington wvo burner.

lesofprimus · 02-05-2009, 12:27 AM

Vassili Zaitzev · 02-05-2009, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lesofprimus

Heh, he lasted long, nice kill.

Gnomey · 02-05-2009, 01:43 PM

Another one bites the dust --> delete the link

Njaco · 02-06-2009, 11:03 PM

Talk about a battleaxe hit!

sparks · 02-07-2009, 07:11 PM

Heres what we have come up with so far

GE plane setGE = Bf-109E-1, Bf-109E-4, Bf-110C-4, Ki-43 Oscar (sub for Macchi C.200 and Fiat G.50), Ju-87D, Ju-87G, He-111

GBHurricane IA, Hurricane IIB (SU version rather than 4 cannon IIC), Hurricane IID, Martlet I, Tomahawk IIB, Dauntless, Avenger, Li-2 (SU transport as a level bomber, no paratroops, sub for Wellington and Blenheim

Let me know what you think and you can all come and play they have a 2week free trial, thes will be at level 7 phisics no auto trim or hit reports

https://fighterace.ketsujin.com/

01-31-2009, 05:15 PM	#1
sparks Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 24	Battle axe Can sombody please tell me what planes were at this battle in may of 1941, both allied and axis.We are putting a historical enent together for the 13th on Fighter ace (wich you can still get the 2 week free sign up) would love any help on this. thanks

01-31-2009, 06:24 PM	#2
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	Operation Battle Axe occurred in June of 1941, not May. June 15-17 to be exact. You might want to read up on a battle and know the actual dates before you plan an event like that... Operation Battleaxe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

01-31-2009, 11:10 PM	#4
Njaco The Pop-Tart Whisperer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South Jersey, United States Posts: 10,236	Components of Fliegerfuhrer Afrika in May / June 1941: Single-engine fighters: 7./JG 26 with 13 servicable Bf 109E-7 Trop 1./JG 27 with 25 servicable Bf 109E-7 Trop Twin-engined fighters: 7. and 8./ZG 26 with 22 servicable Bf 110E-1 Bombers: III./LG 1 with 11 servicable Ju 88A-4 Trop Dive-Bombers: I./StG 1 with 21 servicable Ju 87B-2 II./StG 2 with 27 servicable Ju 87B-2 Recon: 2(H)./14 with 13 servicable Hs 126s and Bf 110s 2(F)./123 with 2 servicable Ju 88D-5s __________________ "If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it's English, thank a soldier!" http://www.njcacoa.org/

02-01-2009, 02:32 AM	#6
GrauGeist Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Redding, California Posts: 3,350	The Italians had the Fiat CR32 and Fiat CR42 for fighters, Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 & Savoia-Marchetti SM.81 for bombers. The Allied (RAF, SAAF, RAAF) aircraft were: Fighters: Gloster Gladiator Curtiss P-40 Tomahawk or Kittyhawk Hurricane Mk II Bombers: Douglas Boston Bristol Bombay Bristol Blenheim Vickers Wellington Vickers Valentia __________________ "Look back over the past, with its changing empires that rose and fell, and you can foresee the future." - Marcus Aurelius, Emperor of Rome > I Support Doug Gillis <

02-01-2009, 12:59 PM	#7
Njaco The Pop-Tart Whisperer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South Jersey, United States Posts: 10,236	Those numbers are servicable. There were others on hand, but those are th ones that were flying. Grau, I also read that there were some M. 202s available? __________________ "If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it's English, thank a soldier!" http://www.njcacoa.org/

01-31-2009, 07:55 PM	#3
sparks Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 24	Evanglider, i have done my homework on this but,what I schould have asked was;We know we had hurcs and wellingtons,but what did the Ge side have emils, stukas,88s.the MacchiC.200.The problem I have is we dont have all these planes available to us,so for the wellington we would like to sub in the mitchell d or the avenger,the MacchiC.200 the ki43 oscar.Also what model of hurricane was there the 1a, the 11c and I see no spits but some p40s also did GE have the early 110cs.just cant find the exact planes used in the battle. so any help would be great ty

02-01-2009, 01:24 AM	#5
sparks Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 24	thank you sir

02-01-2009, 01:13 PM	#8
GrauGeist Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Redding, California Posts: 3,350	Not from what I've read, NJ...the Folgore was delivered to North Africa in mid-1941, so it would have missed Battle Axe but did see alot of action on other fronts from late '41 onwards. It was definately a premier fighter, too...sadly under-armed, but could hang in there with the best the Allies had to offer, performance-wise. __________________ "Look back over the past, with its changing empires that rose and fell, and you can foresee the future." - Marcus Aurelius, Emperor of Rome > I Support Doug Gillis <

02-01-2009, 05:46 PM	#9
sparks Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 24	do we know what model of hurricanes were sent? thanks for all the help,once we have all the details in order i will post them .thanks Sparks Sorry just read that it was the mark 11 Last edited by sparks; 02-01-2009 at 05:49 PM. Reason: did not read all the info

02-04-2009, 11:33 PM	#10
wangfei Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1	Brass air fittings Now that is a lot of brass air fittings mod edit: link removed there is just about every type of air fitting that you could want. Wholesale prices too. I guess these could be used as small water pipe fitting also. I used some of the parts to make my babington wvo burner. Last edited by evangilder; 02-07-2009 at 10:35 AM.

02-05-2009, 12:27 AM	#11
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02-05-2009, 01:43 PM	#13
Gnomey "World Traveller" Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Royal Deeside/St Andrews, Scotland, UK Posts: 15,224	Another one bites the dust --> delete the link __________________ "Success is not Final, Failure is not Fatal, it is the Courage to Continue that Counts" Sir Winston Churchill "To him the People of the World Largely owe the Freedom and Liberties they Enjoy Today" Enscription on Hugh Dowding's (AOC Fighter Command 1936-40) statue in London WW2 Talk: A WW2 Discussion Forum My Photo Collections on Flickr

02-06-2009, 11:03 PM	#14
Njaco The Pop-Tart Whisperer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South Jersey, United States Posts: 10,236	Talk about a battleaxe hit! __________________ "If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it's English, thank a soldier!" http://www.njcacoa.org/

02-07-2009, 07:11 PM	#15
sparks Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 24	Heres what we have come up with so far GE plane setGE = Bf-109E-1, Bf-109E-4, Bf-110C-4, Ki-43 Oscar (sub for Macchi C.200 and Fiat G.50), Ju-87D, Ju-87G, He-111 GBHurricane IA, Hurricane IIB (SU version rather than 4 cannon IIC), Hurricane IID, Martlet I, Tomahawk IIB, Dauntless, Avenger, Li-2 (SU transport as a level bomber, no paratroops, sub for Wellington and Blenheim Let me know what you think and you can all come and play they have a 2week free trial, thes will be at level 7 phisics no auto trim or hit reports https://fighterace.ketsujin.com/

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