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Old 09-01-2009, 09:34 AM   #106
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That was far from being accepted. It was an issue that permeated throughout the south for the most part, and while it was a despicable part of America's past, it wasn't even close to the scale of the slaughter on the European battlefields.

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I'm trying to figure out how Black Americans work into the Hiroshima discussion, but I'll respond anyway.

How is there any "feeling better" about that truth? The fact that an estimated 5 to 8 thousand Americans were killed over the course of 50 years by fellow Americans is, like I said before, despicable and inexcusable. What I was getting at in my previous response, was that in Europe, people had just experianced a war who's battles saw slaughters of up to 18,800 Allied soldiers alone...in one single day. Those were just the British losses during the opening battle of the Somme, 1 July 1916. The Somme would go on to be a meat grinder consuming a staggering amount of men during it's course. It was only one of many bitter battles, as you may or may not know.

So perhaps the domestic issue of injustices against Black Americans back then is similiar to what we see in today's society and it's "great public outcry" against the former administration and it's "war for oil" instead of trying to do something about the 16,204 Americans that were murdered last year.

I was commenting on why people always say "in the south" when they talk about the racial issues of the past...I did it too. Its an interesting qualifying statement that people always seem to make. I'm not sure that its really an important distinction to make when discussing the issue. It tends to suggest that the "south" has a greater culpability in the matter.

Some of my comments developed out of the "flow" of the thread...and perhaps I should have addressed some of your comments in a different context.

Another thought I was trying to make was about how people "rank" horrific events by severity...The deaths of the African Americans and the campaign of terror launched against them was a horrible event in our history, and so was the trench warfare of WW1...but why compare them "on a scale"? Why a need to measure the tragedy? Does the number of deaths make one event worse then another? Again it suggests a value of culpability...

As far as the analogy you are drawing between the "war on oil" and all that...I can't really comment. But if you read the thread you will see that someone else brought up the topic of Americas changing views on the importance of "human rights" between the years of 1880 and 1930. I merely pointed out a fact on the topic...

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