Tom Cruise involved in John Woo's "Flying Tiger's" movie...maybe - Page 3 - Aircraft of World War II

ToughOmbre · 10-28-2009, 05:22 PM

How about Sean Penn in the title role in a remake of "Patton"?

TO

proton45 · 10-28-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Messy1

I am pissed just from his comment about the Flying Tigers "winning" the war. Go read your hitory Tom! Not taking anything away from the AVG, just thinking about all the other veterans who did their part too! He obviously is not a student of history. I envision a typcial Woo film, everything overdone with little concern about historical accuracy.
Great, another great WW2 story that could be turned into a another epic with the right man and director at the helm, another guy named Tom comes to mind! And a guy named Steven too! Cruise is mediocre at best. He's a tool! at least he finally got the hint no one wants to hear him preaching about his "religious" and political views!
Disappointed to read this.

I actually think it was John Woo, who made the comment about the Tigers winning the war...He is a Chinese, who now lives in the USA, and I can see why this might be an interesting topic for him. The AVG was one of the few successful co-operational projects between the Chinese and the Americans, and Woo is a displaced Christian Chinese of Hong Kong. I'm sure that the story of the AVG is one he thinks is important, and maybe less known in "Red China".

Its unfortunate that John Woo's fabulously dramatic film style doesn't really sit well with contemporary "war buff's", who crave reality in a war film...because he apparently enjoys making "big budget war films". If you have ever seen any of his "Hong Kong era" crime story movies you would know what I mean...he makes an art of poetically filmed scenes of overblown ridiculous action...he is truly a master.

I'll bet that Mr Cruise wants to be a part of this story (unfortunately)...because he is a pilot and a war buff.

proton45 · 10-28-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ToughOmbre

How about Sean Penn in the title role in a remake of "Patton"?

TO

It is really odd that so many "left wing" actors want to (in fact crave) these heroic WW2 roles...I hear that Mr Baldwin really, really wanted the role of Doolittle in "P.H."...its like they are looking for a legitimate outlet for the warrior that rests in all men (WW2 being the last good war_lol).

Messy1 · 10-28-2009, 05:44 PM

I don't know Proton. To me, it is a injustice to all those who fought in WW2 if the movie is not portrayed as accurately as possible. I think there is a place for Woo's style, many like it. But not when you are retelling a story or period that changed the entire world. Now a fictional event in WW2? That would be fine IMO.

proton45 · 10-28-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Messy1

I don't know Proton. To me, it is a injustice to all those who fought in WW2 if the movie is not portrayed as accurately as possible. I think there is a place for Woo's style, many like it. But not when you are retelling a story or period that changed the entire world. Now a fictional event in WW2? That would be fine IMO.

Oh, don't get me wrong...I agree with you, on the whole. I'm just saying that its "too bad", because I feel that John Woo's motivations are "pure". I don't think he is setting out to "just make a buck" or to "ruin the story"...I feel that he really admires the "Tigers".

Messy1 · 10-28-2009, 06:00 PM

You could be right.

RabidAlien · 10-29-2009, 08:56 AM

Get Hanks/Speilberg/Eastwood to act/direct this one, and I'll be first in line to see it.

Messy1 · 10-29-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ToughOmbre

How about Sean Penn in the title role in a remake of "Patton"?

TO

I may have to boycott that one!

proton45 · 10-29-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Messy1

You could be right.

To some extent I think its an issue of culture...I believe the Chinese culture still enjoys telling "big tails of heroic giants", as apposed to making a "historic-drama" that attempts to record what these people probably experienced and felt. Its a different perspective on how to honor a hero...'they' believe in making them a "larger then life" character (as was the fashion here too, at one time), and we recognize the human/everyman aspect of their experiences. It may also be a matter of experience...by this i mean that the US Army viewed the average soldier as an "everyman" and the training was thus oriented.

Also, i would add that here in the "western world"...we view WW2 as a resent event that is slowly slipping into history. We watch as our own family's slip into the great unknown, and we seek some way of preserving their actions in life. To honor them by remembering what they went through as an "everyman" (by that I mean someone we can empathize with). We somehow view the telling of 'traditional' larger then life hero tails (like Homer) as a ridiculous convention that doesn't honor the 'real life' (humble) hero's we know...

Bottom line...what they went through in the war was heroic & interesting enough, without having to 'jazz-up' the story. But then again we are history junkies...

Rant over (sorry)...

Messy1 · 10-29-2009, 01:29 PM

Good post proton.

Bucksnort101 · 10-29-2009, 01:54 PM

TO, never, ever mention the names James DooLittle and Alec Baldwin (dang you made me do it) in the same snetence again. Blasphemy!!!!

I don't think I could stomach watching Tom Cruise in this movie either. Smug, arrogant, condescending, are a few "nice" words I can come up with to describe what I think of him. It comes across in his acting as well.
Seen him interviewed not too long ago and just wanted to reach out a punch him through the TV screen. Had the "Holier than thou" attitute and that only his opinion and position on things mattered.
I'd love to see a accurate Flying Tigers movie made, the story needs no Hollywood embellishment, but if Tommy Boy plays Claire Chennault I will probably pass.

vikingBerserker · 10-29-2009, 11:40 PM

I think I'd actually get sick.

Pong · 10-30-2009, 04:15 AM

Three words: Pearl Harbor Two.

proton45 · 10-31-2009, 11:39 AM

some of you might find this little tid-bit about Cruise funny (interesting)....

Tom Cruise Inspired Christian Bale's American Psycho

vikingBerserker · 10-31-2009, 02:13 PM

The title alone is pretty dam funny.

10-28-2009, 05:22 PM	#31
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10-28-2009, 05:44 PM	#34
Messy1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ankeny, Iowa Posts: 1,411	I don't know Proton. To me, it is a injustice to all those who fought in WW2 if the movie is not portrayed as accurately as possible. I think there is a place for Woo's style, many like it. But not when you are retelling a story or period that changed the entire world. Now a fictional event in WW2? That would be fine IMO. __________________ Bryon O P-61 Black Widow-Mistress of the Night! "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." George S. Patton "Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government." "Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away."

10-28-2009, 06:00 PM	#36
Messy1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ankeny, Iowa Posts: 1,411	You could be right. __________________ Bryon O P-61 Black Widow-Mistress of the Night! "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." George S. Patton "Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government." "Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away."

10-29-2009, 08:56 AM	#37
RabidAlien Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hurst, Texas Posts: 2,827	Get Hanks/Speilberg/Eastwood to act/direct this one, and I'll be first in line to see it. __________________ Pillage, then burn. Argue not with dragons, for thou art crunchy and go well on toast.

10-29-2009, 01:29 PM	#40
Messy1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ankeny, Iowa Posts: 1,411	Good post proton. __________________ Bryon O P-61 Black Widow-Mistress of the Night! "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." George S. Patton "Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government." "Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away."

10-29-2009, 01:54 PM	#41
Bucksnort101 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,204	TO, never, ever mention the names James DooLittle and Alec Baldwin (dang you made me do it) in the same snetence again. Blasphemy!!!! I don't think I could stomach watching Tom Cruise in this movie either. Smug, arrogant, condescending, are a few "nice" words I can come up with to describe what I think of him. It comes across in his acting as well. Seen him interviewed not too long ago and just wanted to reach out a punch him through the TV screen. Had the "Holier than thou" attitute and that only his opinion and position on things mattered. I'd love to see a accurate Flying Tigers movie made, the story needs no Hollywood embellishment, but if Tommy Boy plays Claire Chennault I will probably pass. __________________ A 2006 study found that the average American walks about 900 miles a year. Another study found that Americans drink an average of 22 gallons of beer a year. That means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles per gallon.

10-29-2009, 11:40 PM	#42
vikingBerserker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,768	I think I'd actually get sick. __________________ "Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it" "Those who dwell in the past, condemn the future"

10-30-2009, 04:15 AM	#43
Pong Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 495	Three words: Pearl Harbor Two. __________________ "I'm sure as hell not a killer, but combat flying is like a game, and a guy likes to come out on top." -Maj. George E. Preddy, killed on Christmas Day, 1944

10-31-2009, 11:39 AM	#44
proton45 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 415	some of you might find this little tid-bit about Cruise funny (interesting).... Tom Cruise Inspired Christian Bale's American Psycho

10-31-2009, 02:13 PM	#45
vikingBerserker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,768	The title alone is pretty dam funny. __________________ "Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it" "Those who dwell in the past, condemn the future"

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