Compass "Aero" - Aircraft of World War II

Vladlenn · 06-13-2006, 11:23 AM

Hi everybody!! I'm from Ukraine, Crimea, Yalta city.
I've compass that was found in mountans conceivably at the place of crash Ju 88 A4. But as i see on the pictures of cockpit Ju 88 got another compass. One my friend say that compas from Italian bomber SM79b, but its not confirm...
Does anybody knows from what kind of airplane this compass?
Does somebody knows logo "Aero"?

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 06-13-2006, 11:51 AM

Well Aero sounds more Italian to me.

I dont know what kind of aircraft it came from, but any aircraft from any country had different packages in there cockpit and just because one picture shows a certain kind of compass in an aircraft does not mean than an aircraft of the same type does not have a different compass.

FLYBOYJ · 06-13-2006, 12:22 PM

What about Aero Vodochody? Prior to the war they went by Aero...

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 06-13-2006, 03:39 PM

Could be...

Jank · 06-13-2006, 04:55 PM

See the third item down.

http://www.warbirdsite.com/DH82TigerMoth.html

"Trade Sestrel Mark, Aero Compass, Sole Manufacturers, Henry Browne & Son Ltd, Barking London."

It might be British.

FLYBOYJ · 06-13-2006, 05:50 PM

I think it's from Aero Vodochody, Aero in pre WW2 - look at today's logo..

Maybe Pisis could find something.

If it was from an SM.79 maybe CC has a cockpit shot that shows the compass.

My wild guess it came from an Aero A-300...

Vladlenn · 06-14-2006, 05:48 AM

guys, thanks to evrybody. Yes, I agree with DerAdlerIstGelandet, Aero sounds more Italian then German. It also could be Czech. I read that Focke Wulf 190 were produce in Czech republic at the firm Aero. But if you look at all the german compases you can see "O" - Ost. On my compas its "E" -east. Could be that on German plane?
And as i know, there was no chzeh planes In Crimea.
Could be British. But only Hurricanes was over the Crimea.
If it was Czech aircraft what it was doing in Crimea?.....
And it looks like Aero Vodochody. But.... I lost.. i cant find coincidence....

FLYBOYJ · 06-14-2006, 10:30 AM

I think it's Czech becuase the similarity of the logos, the new Aero logo updated to show an L-39 on it.

Te Germans did use Aero A.300s, I'm wondering if any did make it to Crimea?!?

Dogwalker · 06-14-2006, 01:00 PM

It's not from an SM 79.
Italian bombers had a big and heavy removable compass fixed over the instrument's panel.

cheddar cheese · 06-14-2006, 03:23 PM

As can be seen here I belive...

Vladlenn · 06-15-2006, 08:48 AM

Aha. Thanks Dogwalker and cheddar cheese. I see now than is not from SM79. I agree with FLYBOYJ. I think Its Czech. But IMHO its not from A300 or other Czech planes. I have no information about сzeh planes in Crimea.
I think it might be from Fw 189. Because :
1) firm AERO in 1941-44 was working for Foke Wulf.
2) That plane in our mountains have 2 engines.
So, That is my guess-work.
if somebody can show cockpit foto of FW 189..

Coz i cant find it.
Anyway, yesterday I wrote a letter to Aero Vodochody. I'm asked they is this they old logo, and in what kind of airplanes this compas is used to. Waiting for answer.

Vladlenn · 07-05-2006, 07:26 AM

Yesterday, I've got an answer from AERO Vodochody a.s. They said that they didn't use this type of logo and they didn't produce this compass...
Mystery...
Where it come from?..

v2 · 07-05-2006, 08:06 AM

Hello,
look here:
http://sv06.wadax.ne.jp/~gunsight-jp...a-keiki03e.htm

Pisis · 07-05-2006, 09:03 AM

Did not find it there, v2. And I doubt a Japanese aircraft'd go to Crimea.
There were several squadrons of Slovak Fascist Air Force, using Bf 109's and that stuff, operating in that area during the WW2.
The original Aero was based in Letnany (the place where I'm living, btw), but it had a different logo...

Vladlenn · 07-05-2006, 10:56 AM

Thank you Pisis for info about Aero and SFAF. Of course there's no Japanese planes here. And as i seen at BF 109 another type of compass. And plane in mountaines got 2 engines.

06-13-2006, 11:51 AM	#2
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	Well Aero sounds more Italian to me. I dont know what kind of aircraft it came from, but any aircraft from any country had different packages in there cockpit and just because one picture shows a certain kind of compass in an aircraft does not mean than an aircraft of the same type does not have a different compass. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

06-13-2006, 12:22 PM	#3
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,049	What about Aero Vodochody? Prior to the war they went by Aero... __________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT"

06-13-2006, 03:39 PM	#4
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	Could be... __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

06-14-2006, 10:30 AM	#8
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,049	I think it's Czech becuase the similarity of the logos, the new Aero logo updated to show an L-39 on it. Te Germans did use Aero A.300s, I'm wondering if any did make it to Crimea?!? __________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT"

06-14-2006, 01:00 PM	#9
Dogwalker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Manziana Field, near Rome Posts: 260	It's not from an SM 79. Italian bombers had a big and heavy removable compass fixed over the instrument's panel. __________________

06-13-2006, 04:55 PM	#5
Jank Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 679	See the third item down. http://www.warbirdsite.com/DH82TigerMoth.html "Trade Sestrel Mark, Aero Compass, Sole Manufacturers, Henry Browne & Son Ltd, Barking London." It might be British.

06-14-2006, 05:48 AM	#7
Vladlenn Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8	guys, thanks to evrybody. Yes, I agree with DerAdlerIstGelandet, Aero sounds more Italian then German. It also could be Czech. I read that Focke Wulf 190 were produce in Czech republic at the firm Aero. But if you look at all the german compases you can see "O" - Ost. On my compas its "E" -east. Could be that on German plane? And as i know, there was no chzeh planes In Crimea. Could be British. But only Hurricanes was over the Crimea. If it was Czech aircraft what it was doing in Crimea?..... And it looks like Aero Vodochody. But.... I lost.. i cant find coincidence....

06-15-2006, 08:48 AM	#11
Vladlenn Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8	Aha. Thanks Dogwalker and cheddar cheese. I see now than is not from SM79. I agree with FLYBOYJ. I think Its Czech. But IMHO its not from A300 or other Czech planes. I have no information about сzeh planes in Crimea. I think it might be from Fw 189. Because : 1) firm AERO in 1941-44 was working for Foke Wulf. 2) That plane in our mountains have 2 engines. So, That is my guess-work. if somebody can show cockpit foto of FW 189.. Coz i cant find it. Anyway, yesterday I wrote a letter to Aero Vodochody. I'm asked they is this they old logo, and in what kind of airplanes this compas is used to. Waiting for answer.

07-05-2006, 07:26 AM	#12
Vladlenn Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8	Yesterday, I've got an answer from AERO Vodochody a.s. They said that they didn't use this type of logo and they didn't produce this compass... Mystery... Where it come from?..

07-05-2006, 08:06 AM	#13
v2 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cracow Posts: 4,207	Hello, look here: http://sv06.wadax.ne.jp/~gunsight-jp...a-keiki03e.htm __________________ "A good fighter pilot, like a good boxer, should have a knockout punch..... You will find one attack you prefer to all others. Work on it till you can do it to perfection... then use it whenever possible." - Captain Reade Tilley, USAAF 7 Victories, WW-II -

07-05-2006, 09:03 AM	#14
Pisis Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Praga Mater Urbium Posts: 5,859	Did not find it there, v2. And I doubt a Japanese aircraft'd go to Crimea. There were several squadrons of Slovak Fascist Air Force, using Bf 109's and that stuff, operating in that area during the WW2. The original Aero was based in Letnany (the place where I'm living, btw), but it had a different logo... __________________ "He's a menace to himself and everything else in the air... yes, birds too." - Airplane! Memory of Nation Why Did Hitler Want Czechoslovakia WW2 Was A War That Had To Be Fought! What Really Happened in Israel? Children of Hamas

07-05-2006, 10:56 AM	#15
Vladlenn Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8	Thank you Pisis for info about Aero and SFAF. Of course there's no Japanese planes here. And as i seen at BF 109 another type of compass. And plane in mountaines got 2 engines.

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