GB 59 - WW2 Pacific Theater of Operations (PTO) - Aug 1, 2023 to Dec 3, 2023 (1 Viewer)

[Vic Balshaw]

Here it is the 8th and I have completely overlooked the start of this GB.
Just too wrapped up in the MesserSpit........
I'll have to take some photos today and at least get on the board.

Your in Australian now Bill, the day comes before the month.

 

[le_steph40]

Agree regarding Bong, Hanson and Johnson....

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Oops, sorry Jan but the projects for these 3 Aces would have been as follows:

Bong's P-38H-5-LO SN42-66847 Oct.-Nov.1943

Bong's P-38J-15-LO SN42-103993 Feb.-March 1944

Hanson's F4U-1 BuNo17472 Nov. 1943

Johnson's P-38L-1-LO (probably) SN44-23??? (unknown) Oct.-Nov. 1944

I still have a headache today but since I have P-38s in my showcase and the work of weathering on the F4U scares me, I think it will be a Ki-43 or a Ki-61

 

[Lucky13]

Oops, sorry Jan but the projects for these 3 Aces would have been as follows:

Bong's P-38H-5-LO SN42-66847 Oct.-Nov.1943
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Bong's P-38J-15-LO SN42-103993 Feb.-March 1944
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Hanson's F4U-1 BuNo17472 Nov. 1943
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Johnson's P-38L-1-LO (probably) SN44-23??? (unknown) Oct.-Nov. 1944
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I still have a headache today but since I have P-38s in my showcase and the work of weathering on the F4U scares me, I think it will be a Ki-43 or a Ki-61

Nice ones....

It's funny how no decals has been made (I haven't seen any) for Gerry Johnson's P-38's....

I'd fancy doing this one as well....with the Australian flag!

I've been thinking of doing Hanson's #596, the machine in which he's still MIA....

I'll probably do Bong's "Marge" P-38 Lightning at some point (I hope), but before then....DOWN BEAT!

 

[le_steph40]

#596 is often/always described as a F4U-1A, but if the BuNo is 17596 (as always given), this machine should be a Birdcage.
Explanations by Dana Bell here.
#590 BuNo 17590 was a Birdcage


#596 was my initial project regarding an aircraft flown by R. M. Hanson but too much uncertainty... Dana Bell explains that 17596 was delivered to FAA as JT174

 

[Lucky13]

#596 is often/always described as a F4U-1A, but if the BuNo is 17596 (as always given), this machine should be a Birdcage.
Explanations by Bana Bell here.
#590 BuNo 17590 was a Birdcage
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#596 was my initial project regarding an aircraft flown by R. M. Hanson but too much uncertainty... Dana Bell explains that 17596 was delivered to FAA as JT174

Aaahh.....a mystery Steph, got love those!

 

[Lucky13]

Forgotten Props - A Warbirds Resource Group Site

No 17596 as F4U-1 but as a F4U-1A

....and at Joe Baugher,

17592/17616 to Royal Navy as Corsair JT170/JT194
17592 (JT170) overturned on landing at Lewiston Sep 6, 1944, declared damaged beyond economical repair.
17594 (JF172) swung on takeoff from Brunswick Oct 11, 1943 and struck parked Corsair JT170(17592). Declared total loss and SOC
17597 (JT175) crashed on landing at Brunswick Jun 17, 1944. Pilot survived.
17598 (JT176) stalled from 100 feet while on aerodrome dummy deck landing approach to Brunswick Oct 5, 1943. Pilot survived but aircraft declared damaged beyond economical repair
17602 (JT180) crashed near runway while on aerodrome dummy deck landing approach at Trenton, near Bar Harbour April 29, 1944. Pilot died of injuries received.
17603 (JT181) overturned when brakes applied, Lewiston September 11, 1944. Pilot survived but aircraft damaged beyond economical repair.
17607 (JT185) returned to US Navy by Aug 1945.
17608 (JT186) collided with Corsair JT214 (17716) during formation flight Mar 24, 1944 and crashed near Waldoboro ME. Pilot killed
17609 (JT187) returned to US Navy by Dec 1945
17610 (JT188) DBR after undercarriage struck snowdrift during aerodrome dummy deck landing approach at Brunswick January 19, 1944.
17612 (JT190) collided with Corsair JT198 (17700) during formation flight Oct 3, 1943 and crashed at North Pownal, ME. Pilot killed.
17614 (JT192) force landed during sortie from Brunswick Jun 14, 1944. Pilot survived but aircraft DBR.
17615 (JT193) overturned while braking to avoid another aircraft when landing at North Kingstown Aug 20, 1943. Pilot unhurt but aircraft DBR.
17616 (JT194) returned to US Navy by Aug 1945.

There's no 17596....where's 17593, 17595 and 17596?

 

[Lucky13]

F4U CORSAIR - The Bent Wing Bird plane site / Statistical data F4U

 

[Greg Boeser]

Forgotten Props - A Warbirds Resource Group Site

No 17596 as F4U-1 but as a F4U-1A

....and at Joe Baugher,

17592/17616 to Royal Navy as Corsair JT170/JT194
17592 (JT170) overturned on landing at Lewiston Sep 6, 1944, declared damaged beyond economical repair.
17594 (JF172) swung on takeoff from Brunswick Oct 11, 1943 and struck parked Corsair JT170(17592). Declared total loss and SOC
17597 (JT175) crashed on landing at Brunswick Jun 17, 1944. Pilot survived.
17598 (JT176) stalled from 100 feet while on aerodrome dummy deck landing approach to Brunswick Oct 5, 1943. Pilot survived but aircraft declared damaged beyond economical repair
17602 (JT180) crashed near runway while on aerodrome dummy deck landing approach at Trenton, near Bar Harbour April 29, 1944. Pilot died of injuries received.
17603 (JT181) overturned when brakes applied, Lewiston September 11, 1944. Pilot survived but aircraft damaged beyond economical repair.
17607 (JT185) returned to US Navy by Aug 1945.
17608 (JT186) collided with Corsair JT214 (17716) during formation flight Mar 24, 1944 and crashed near Waldoboro ME. Pilot killed
17609 (JT187) returned to US Navy by Dec 1945
17610 (JT188) DBR after undercarriage struck snowdrift during aerodrome dummy deck landing approach at Brunswick January 19, 1944.
17612 (JT190) collided with Corsair JT198 (17700) during formation flight Oct 3, 1943 and crashed at North Pownal, ME. Pilot killed.
17614 (JT192) force landed during sortie from Brunswick Jun 14, 1944. Pilot survived but aircraft DBR.
17615 (JT193) overturned while braking to avoid another aircraft when landing at North Kingstown Aug 20, 1943. Pilot unhurt but aircraft DBR.
17616 (JT194) returned to US Navy by Aug 1945.

There's no 17596....where's 17593, 17595 and 17596?

They weren't recorded as lost or damaged.

 

[N4521U]

Nice ones....

It's funny how no decals has been made (I haven't seen any) for Gerry Johnson's P-38's....

I'd fancy doing this one as well....with the Australian flag!

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I've been thinking of doing Hanson's #596, the machine in which he's still MIA....

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I'll probably do Bong's "Marge" P-38 Lightning at some point (I hope), but before then....DOWN BEAT!

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Jan,
Is there a photo of Johnsons' plane showing his name above all the rising sun markers?
What kind of flag and its colors is that Little Dipper in the middle?????

 

[Lucky13]

Jan,
Is there a photo of Johnsons' plane showing his name above all the rising sun markers?
What kind of flag and its colors is that Little Dipper in the middle?????

The best that I could find....

Motion Models - P-38 Lightning. Model airplanes ships aircraft aviation. Die cast aircraft models.

 

[le_steph40]

Jan,
Is there a photo of Johnsons' plane showing his name above all the rising sun markers?
What kind of flag and its colors is that Little Dipper in the middle?????

These ones Bill ?


The flag in the middle is a Australian flag. On 15 Nov. 1943 Johnson mistook an RAAF Wirraway for a Zero and shot it down...
This "victory" was added on his last P-38 early in 1945.

 

[Lucky13]

 

[Lucky13]

 

[le_steph40]

Jan, wouldn't there be infos (serial) regarding the P-38L(?) flown by Johnson during October-November 1944 ?
The one coded black 83 with 15 victory flags.

 

[le_steph40]

 

[Lucky13]

Steph, so far I've found White 83 "Sooner", P-38F-5 42-12655, is this one mixed up as a H-1, also numbered White 83?

I've only seen his L-5 Black 83 as serial unknown....

 

[Wurger]

Jan,
Is there a photo of Johnsons' plane showing his name above all the rising sun markers?
What kind of flag and its colors is that Little Dipper in the middle?????

I haven't found the full shot with the name yet but still keeping searching. Byt in the clipped image I found, it can be noticed that there was also an art on the nose applied. A bab/kid of the name "Jerry" applied ? Perhaps.

the source: the net.

Regarding the flag marking ... IMHO that's the modified Australian one used from 1903 to 1908.

Below the enlarged B&W shot of the flag and my rendition .... thoughts?

 

[le_steph40]

Steph, so far I've found White 83 "Sooner", P-38F-5 42-12655, is this one mixed up as a H-1, also numbered White 83?

I've only seen his L-5 Black 83 as serial unknown....

Jan, if you mean "black 83" with 15 victory flags flown during October-November 1944, it is "very probable" that this aircraft was an L-1.
Explanations/infos here

Maybe one day we'll can see the original photo of the one above right and maybe the serial will be readable...

 

[le_steph40]

Regarding the L-5 "Barbara" I found a profile by Zbigniew Kolacha

But the serial would be more probably 44-25460 or 44-25463(?)

 

[Wayne Little]

I will be along shortly with this one.....