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- Jun 27, 2007
The Americans also copied the 7mm Mauser rifle into the 1903 Springfield.
This was from the Spanish wars 1898.
This was from the Spanish wars 1898.
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The USN is the most powerful navy ever in 1945. And the Kreigsmarine is at the bottom of the sea. So I know which radar set I would use. Just because it's German doesn't mean anything.
I know why the rimmed cartridges were rid of. Don't have to ask.
You did say the 7mm Mauser rifle was not copied. So What is the P13? The P14? Or the American M1917? They were not based on a Mosin!
Hey tomo pauk,
re: "The M48 (Yugo Mauser) - 10 aimed shots. M-59/66 (Yugo SKS) - 20 aimed shots."
Do you have the range details for the above by any chance? Seriously, I am interested.
Hey JAG88,
from your posts#143 in the proximity fuse thread, and your posts#50 & 51 in this thread:
"In general, I think it is normal and human to look down on the weapons of the defeated enemy, and that could cause some people to overlook otherwise interesting developments as in this case... which was the point of bringing up this example in the thread."
"Irrelevant, my point was clear and gave a very detailed example on the US evaluation of the StG 44, nobody else was confused."
"The allies were VERY interested in German technology, but we are all human, we do screw up and make assumptions based on our own prejudices."
I was not confused, and doubt anyone else was.
And Britain, France and the Soviet Union....Cuz 'Murica!
And Britain, France and the Soviet Union....
In regards to the Kreigsmarine's Radar, not investigating now it works just because one has a "mighty fleet" doesn't make sense. The German Navy didn't fail because of it's radar, they failed because their fleet was out-numbered from the start.
The Germans had a great deal of technology that was adopted after the war by all the Allies, like the V-2 rocket, which directly resulted in the US Army Redstone Rocket and ultimately space launch vehicles.
Nope. The liquid fuelled rocket was an American invention.
Germans spent a boat load to make it big.
The British wanted rid of the 303 because it was rimmed. Which is a pain especially for machine guns.
Accuracy in ww2 is not really accurate as it was well below what we today would call accurate. Even a sniping rifle was not as accurate as today's standards. So accuracy in 1940 and 2019 is not the same. Rate of fire is important as a bolt action is quite a tiring muscle memory thing and can be very difficult to keep up for long duration. Semi auto takes the effort out and so allows a constant rate of fire.
The M48 (Yugo Mauser) - 10 aimed shots. M-59/66 (Yugo SKS) - 20 aimed shots.
One caliber to rule them all? Probably too much of an effort, when two calibers will probably cover the needs better?
The .280 was different enough vs. the .303 - the .280 it produced 60% of the energy of the .303. That will mean several benefits from the shooter's and constructor's points of view: recoil becomes easy to control, even on automatic fire, more ammo can be carried for same weight allowance, gun will not be too heavy or cumbersome, less chance of breakage of internals because of lower stress etc.
Thx, very interesting, it is to be noted however that the text speculates as to the reason why the USN didnt master its use, and somehow confirms Schmalenbach's statement since the USN clearly didnt care enough to actually try and understand how it worked and check its performance.
They nuked it instead.
Hello JAG88,
By agreement, all captured ships had to be disposed of within one year, so perhaps there simply wasn't the time to give it proper consideration.
A lot of US personnel were exposed to more than a safe dose of radiation while examining these ships between the test explosions.
- Ivan.
Ok, enough of the flag waving - yes, Goddard was the father of Rocketry.See what I mean GrauGeist?
Cuz 'Murica!
Ok, enough of the flag waving - yes, Goddard was the father of Rocketry.
But the Chinese invented gunpowder, that means all of modern warfare is a moot point as to who did what and this and that, Cuz China!
The only contribution to WWII that Goddard's rocketry innovations provided, was the Bazooka. And just barely.
There is nothing wrong with a nation taking another nation's invention and improving on it. Case in point: Goddard developed modern rockets, Germany turned that into the Ballistic Missile and the U.S. perfected it.
The U.S. developed the first flying bomb (Kettering Bug) and Germany perfected it (V-1) and today, we have the cruise missile.
And back to the radar issue...yes, the U.S. and Britain had advanced radar and so did Germany. The German radar developed on a linear path to the U.S./British radar but the Soviet Union was lagging behind.
And after the war, guess who had access to German radar technology? The Soviets...so taking a close look and better understanding how the German radar system worked, also gave a good insight to what the Soviets may have been working with.
So they didn't copy the 7mm Mauser?
I am confused. Because the P13 looks like a Mauser to me.
I told you why rimmed cartridges are no longer used because they are a pain in machine guns.
The 303 could still be used today.
But it would be a cartridge dating back to the 1880s.
If you think any service rifle from 1940 can match a modern sniper rifle then please enlighten me.
If you think rimmed cartridges are so good why are no modern cartridges rimmed?
The 303 could still be used today.
But it would be a cartridge dating back to the 1880s.
If you think any service rifle from 1940 can match a modern sniper rifle then please enlighten me.
If you think rimmed cartridges are so good why are no modern cartridges rimmed?