Njaco
The Pop-Tart Whisperer
I'm open to being corrected, as even the best informed sources get confused, or wrongly interpret conflicting sources.
That is the most refreshing sentence I've read in a long time. Makes for a great discussion!
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I'm open to being corrected, as even the best informed sources get confused, or wrongly interpret conflicting sources.
That is the most refreshing sentence I've read in a long time. Makes for a great discussion!
I would be interested in knowing if any of the supposedly definitive "He-277B" production models with the twin enplates and improved defensive armament were made. Green, in his Warplanes of the 3rd Reich, states that a handful of these were completed after formal approval of the He-177B/He-277 program was issued but apparently not flown and scrapped shortly thereafter. This is, however, an old book and a lot of newer research has been done. Having now seen the pictures of the demolished He-277s/He-177Bs in LuftArchiv and that Czech site, I now wonder if those are the aircraft Green referred to - basically nothing more than re-engined He-177s
Just when you think you know it all someone pops up and says ahem scuse me but you're wrong
There seems to be reasonable grounds to suggest at least 26 individual He-277 aircraft were built and flown from December 1943 when the first He-277 took flight and 2 July 1944 when all bomber production was stopped. Here are some of the registrations and constructor numbers which I have identified:
GA+QQ Heinkel He277 V9
GA+QR Heinkel He277 V10
GA+QM Heinkel He277 V26
GA+QX Heinkel He277 V18
I'm open to being corrected, as even the best informed sources get confused, or wrongly interpret conflicting sources.
That is the most refreshing sentence I've read in a long time. Makes for a great discussion!
In the second picture, the designs of the true He 277 (the one that had a bigger wingspan than the He 177B, He 177A-7, or He 177B-7) are labeled with the fictitious designation "He 277B-6". However, because the He 277 was not built, the "He 277B-6" designation was probably a typo made up by William Green in his book Warplanes of the Third Reich (a copy of which I recently read at the library in the Western Museum of Flight) due to the fact that the He 277 had the same fuselage cockpit nose design as the He 177A-6/R2 and Bristol Blenheim. Anthony Kay's 1972 book on German WW2 aircraft (revised edition 2002) repeats the misinformation about the He 277 and He 177B, including referring to the He 277 as "He 277B-6" and He 177B-7 as "He 277B-7".some pics of what we're talking about......
I think the title of this thread ought to be changed to "He 177B and He 277" because it's clear that the He 277 was a different plane than the He 177B, given that the He 177B was assigned much later than He 277 (see https://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=354930&mode=view).
Or maybe we don't bring decades old threads back from the dead?
A new thread would have sufficed?
Does he ever reply, or is it one or two sentences after a deep archival dig and then on to the next shiny object?