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01-04-2008, 05:51 PM
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Never forget what happened on December 7, 1941! | 
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01-04-2008, 06:57 PM
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#2 | | "Shooter"
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01-04-2008, 07:25 PM
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| Damn, I thought this thread was going to be a discussion on Pearl harbor!
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01-04-2008, 08:10 PM
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#4 | | "Shooter"
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01-04-2008, 08:48 PM
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Country: | Kimmel was a scapegoat.
(does that work?  )
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01-04-2008, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Njaco  Kimmel was a scapegoat.
(does that work? ) | He was responsible for the debacle and he is lucky he wasn't executed for incompetence.
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01-04-2008, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by syscom3 He was responsible for the debacle and he is lucky he wasn't executed for incompetence. | Even if the mistakes were not all his, the guy in charge (usually) takes the blame.
Imagine if "Overlord" had been a huge disaster, and the Allies had failed to hold the beaches, Ike would probably have taken the fall, even if his planning & leadership were not the problem.
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01-04-2008, 10:24 PM
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Country: | I may have to go with freebird on this. I've read postive things about him and negative. Not totally his blame but sometimes crap rolls uphill.
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01-04-2008, 10:30 PM
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Country: | Kimmel (and Short) were incompetent. They were warned more than once about a potential Japanese attack and did not take the necessary steps to defend Pearl. Marshall's last "war warning" went out ten days (27 November) prior to 7 December. They are not scapegoats in my mind.
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01-05-2008, 05:15 AM
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Country:  | Im not up on Pearl Harbor.I`ve seen the newish film,was it factual?
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01-05-2008, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AVRoe Im not up on Pearl Harbor.I`ve seen the newish film,was it factual? | "Pearl Harbor" was an awful movie. Watch the 1970 movie "Tora! Tora! Tora!", very accurate.
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01-05-2008, 10:09 AM
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Country: | I luved tora tora tora so much better than Pearl Harbor it was all having to do with a Love story | |
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01-05-2008, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ToughOmbre "Pearl Harbor" was an awful movie. Watch the 1970 movie "Tora! Tora! Tora!", very accurate.
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01-05-2008, 12:00 PM
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#14 | | the old Sage
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Country: | make a note that the original poster has not returned if h/it is a poster or a spam bot ? | |
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01-05-2008, 12:08 PM
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