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1.Stalingrad
2.Normandy
3.El alamain
4.BOB
5.kursk... |
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10-01-2004, 01:36 AM
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| The most important battle of WW2
what was the most important battle of ww2 ?
1.Stalingrad
2.Normandy
3.El alamain
4.BOB
5.kursk | 
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10-01-2004, 02:12 AM
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Country:  | No single battle on its own can be said to be the most important.
Stalingrad is always said to be the turning point, but I fail to see how. The Germans didn't actually lose offensive capability until the Ardennes Offensive 1944. Kursk and the Ardennes Offensive must be two of the most important.
Battle of Britain definately has to be up there because it was the first time Germany had been beaten. And it halted their onslaught in Europe.
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10-01-2004, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NightHawk what was the most importent battle of ww2 ?
1.Stalingrad
2.Normandy
3.El alamain
4.BOB
5.kursk | Ídem...
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10-02-2004, 02:51 AM
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| lets say thet stalingrad was lost to the germans, or el alamain was lost ? or the landing in normandy never happend ? i tihnk if any one of those battles were lost. germany could have won the war. | |
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Country: | Stalingrad is too hard to say. It would have provided an excellent garrison, industrial base and access to the Caucasus oilfields. On top of that an open route to the Caucasus would have given an open route to Persia. That said the Soviet Union could have held up defences further East, if desperate times even on the Ural Mountains. It was an important battle though.
El Alamein if won by the Germans would not be assurance of a complete victory in North Africa. The supplies of Rommels Afrika Corps was running low due to Royal Navy blockades. Had the British 8th Army retreated from the area surrounding El Alamein and set up defences further East then Rommel would still have the troubles of the 8th Army from the East, and the American-Anglo Armies landing in the west.
Had the Normandy Landings never happened, or been wiped out. The Germans would have, at least, been able to hold on for months, or even years after they did. The greatest of the German Army was present to defend against the Normandy Invasion (11th and 21st Panzer Divisions), had the 10 Panzer Divisions and 48 Infantry Divisions been in the East the Soviet Union would not have been able to achieve the great advances they did in the dying months of '44 and early 1945.
On top of that, due to the Western Invasion Gen. Balck possibly the greatest Panzer generals of the war was moved Westward to halt the advance of Allied Armies.
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Country: | all very good points, i agree, no one battle can claim to be the most important..............
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| if germany would have taken 1 fron each time and not at 3 fronts at the same time they would have had a better chanse of sucsses in wining ww2.
russia would have not surrvived the full might if the german army.
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10-03-2004, 01:40 AM
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| well whats stoping you ? i know thet you will proberly say
"what a retard" so if you want you can say it.i cant stop can i ? | |
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10-03-2004, 06:27 AM
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Country: | does nighthawk realise russia's man and military power??
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Country: | No he's right. The German Army crushed the Red Army with ease in 1941. By 1943 the Red Army was reaching the extents of its manpower, German soldiers were capturing children and old men in the Soviet ranks. The Red Army did not have unlimited resources or manpower.
They realised that the Soviet army if subjected to a great defeat in 1943, would collapse. And they were right but unfortunately (for them) they chose the wrong day, wrong place and wrong time at Kursk.
Had Germany took A) Moscow B) Stalingrad or C) Kursk then the Soviet would be in deep trouble. None, however, were an assurance of victory.
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10-03-2004, 06:58 AM
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Country: | i realise no country can have unlimited man or military power, but the russains won but ion was no walk in the park, it was partly russia's might that caused the german downfall in the east...............
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