Interesting color scheme. You said the Czhech did that after the war?
Mossie vs Ju88
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Erich
the old Sage
no this was a German scheme while portions of NJG 100 were at Czech airfields towards wars end. Sadly the code has been painted out so I do not know what staffel it is from
Erich
the old Sage
well, just received word from Germany some 6 hrs ago that ace nf pilot Martin Becker has now passed as of last night. Martin did not see his 90th birthday and was was ill for some time. 58 kills, last Gruppenkommandeur of IV./NJG 6 flying a Ju 88G-6 without the SM installation. Both he and his Bordfünker Karl Johanssen were Ritterkreuz winners, Karl still being in good health.
RIP Martin
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
RIP
evangilder
"Shooter"
Erich
the old Sage
just caught my ace friend Peter Spoden at home before his trip this weekend for the Aviation print and book signing at Bucks England with two other NJG 6 kamerades. asked him aobut flying Ju 88G-6 in ground attack in spring of 45 :
Erich,
According the KTB NJG 6 (war-diary) my group I and the IV NJG 6 started with ground attacks at 25th of March 1945 against the Rhein-bridge at Oppenheim with 12 Bf 110 and 4 Ju 88. We lost 2 Ju 88 and 4 Bf 110 because of heavy anti-aircraft fire by US troops at low altitude. I dont remember what kind of 2-cm-ammunition we used but remember we also used kind of "Streubomben" in containers under our a/c against road- and railway-traffic towards the other, meanwhile occupied side of Rhein-river where we could see thousands of lighted trucks streaming against Germany. I never forget that picture. Our success was more than marginal.
Erich,
According the KTB NJG 6 (war-diary) my group I and the IV NJG 6 started with ground attacks at 25th of March 1945 against the Rhein-bridge at Oppenheim with 12 Bf 110 and 4 Ju 88. We lost 2 Ju 88 and 4 Bf 110 because of heavy anti-aircraft fire by US troops at low altitude. I dont remember what kind of 2-cm-ammunition we used but remember we also used kind of "Streubomben" in containers under our a/c against road- and railway-traffic towards the other, meanwhile occupied side of Rhein-river where we could see thousands of lighted trucks streaming against Germany. I never forget that picture. Our success was more than marginal.
Henk
Master Sergeant
Great info Erich.
Henk
Henk
Royzee617
Tech Sergeant
One fact about WW2 was that there were never enough Mossies!
Two of the most versatile warplanes ever up against each other - would make a good book!
Didn't I read somewhere that the LW liked the Mozzie so much they were actually considering copying it? They had their own Mozzie of course, the Moskito. Probably so as to get around any copyright infringement.
I wonder if a Ju88 ever got underneath a Mozzie and blasted it with the old SM?
Two of the most versatile warplanes ever up against each other - would make a good book!
Didn't I read somewhere that the LW liked the Mozzie so much they were actually considering copying it? They had their own Mozzie of course, the Moskito. Probably so as to get around any copyright infringement.
I wonder if a Ju88 ever got underneath a Mozzie and blasted it with the old SM?
Erich
the old Sage
to your last question.............yes as well as Beufighters, all done by Ju 88G-6's armed with Schrägwaffen.
read my earlier posts about my book(s)
read my earlier posts about my book(s)
One of the Ju 88's competitiors looked remarkably like the Mosquito and flew in 1937
http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/hs127.html
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/bww2/hs127.html
http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/hs127.html
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/bww2/hs127.html
Royzee617
Tech Sergeant
POC c.f. the ultimate aesthetics of the Mozzie!
Royzee617
Tech Sergeant
BTW I'd reckon that at first the success would rely on who had the better avionics. I read somewhere the Mozzie was a good 'stealth' plane thanks to its wooden construction c.f. all metal planes. Dunno how this would help hide from Wurzburgs etc and fighter direction given the 88 was operating over home turf.
They are about on a par wrt armament too. Ex for the SM I mentioned above.
All told I would think the Mozzie could outmanoeuvre the 88 on weight grounds if nothing else.
I wonder which was the more robust. Maybe the liquid-cooled Merlins were less robust than air-cooled radials of the 88.
They are about on a par wrt armament too. Ex for the SM I mentioned above.
All told I would think the Mozzie could outmanoeuvre the 88 on weight grounds if nothing else.
I wonder which was the more robust. Maybe the liquid-cooled Merlins were less robust than air-cooled radials of the 88.
pbfoot
1st Lieutenant
The spinning props which are metal would be an excellent radar reflector hardly stealth
Royzee617
Tech Sergeant
True, it was just a thought.... relative to another aircraft of comparable dimensions was what I meant.
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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- Dec 20, 2003
The -88 had inline engines, in the same way as the -190D however they had circular cowlings.........
cheddar cheese
Major General
I believe some Ju-88 variants had radials though...
Erich
the old Sage
just to add my two cents ............ Ju G-1 had BMW 801's and the G-6 had in-line Jumo 213E's hot rods up to 2500hp; circular radiators but from the outside you would say with the cooling grills which were needed they were somewhat cone shaped.....
Gemhorse
Senior Airman
Apparently the Ju.88G-7 was gonna be the ''Mossie-killer''......
